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The Mark & Jeanette Show: Ep 46 Battling Urban Violence and Reflecting on Local Community in a Small Town: Las Cruces
A heartfelt conversation about community resilience in the wake of a mass shooting at Young Park in Las Cruces that left three dead and fifteen injured. We explore the deeper implications of youth gun violence and how small towns maintain their identity through tragedy.
• Mass shooting at Young Park during an unsanctioned car show involving teenagers and firearms
• Historical events on March 23rd, from Patrick Henry's "Give me liberty or give me death" to Lewis and Clark's journey home
• The unique character of Las Cruces and southern New Mexico as an insulated community with deep Hispanic roots
• Reflection on gun culture in America compared to countries with stricter or different approaches
• Cartel violence in Mexico and how lack of civilian gun ownership affects community safety
• Social media's negative impact on youth development and mental health
• The importance of parental involvement in protecting children from online dangers
Despite recent tragedy, Las Cruces remains a good place with good people. This incident shouldn't be a blight on what goes on here, but rather a catalyst for positive change and community healing.
Flies might have like an important place to pay for. Flies may have like an important part in the environment as a whole. Immunity Maybe, I don't know. I mean they spread the yellow fever. They don't spread like malaria, but Bacteria that you might not be exposed to regularly when it throws up on your food.
Speaker 1:Maybe like decomposition, I don't know. But Because you know that's what it does when it lands on your food, right, it vomits. Yeah, I've heard you know what. Let me be honest, I believe you they're disgusting. Like fly lands on my food, I'm like, oh, now it tastes really good.
Speaker 1:Do cockroaches have a place in? Yeah, I think they all do in terms of like. I think they all do in terms of like, uh, um, I think they all do in terms of, like you know, decomposition of what's out there in the world, right, like they all have their place, but, uh, they're still gross. Yeah, do you know? Um, let me think here. Okay, first of all, there's a fly, a fly like a bot fly, yeah, that lays its larva in you and it burrows in you, yeah, and then, like I guess, once the larva's ready, just fly, comes out of your belly, or something Like how gross is that Frigging fly growing in you? The parasite? Oh, we're live. Now that we're talking about flies, that's gross, like I mean, I'm thankful that we live in a part of the world where we don't have to deal with that, but, sweet baby Jesus, I mean, we got a good amount of horse flies here.
Speaker 1:They bite but, I don't think I've ever had like a fly bite me where I'm like, ah yeah. But I can imagine like looking down and seeing like a boil on my arm and being like, oh, there's a fly under my flesh, okay, rolly pulleys. And being like, oh, there's a fly under my flesh, okay, roly-polies. Roly-polies have different names. They're pill bugs, roly-polies, wood lice, and there's another name but a roly-poly right, salbug, I don't know. Anyways. So they're gross, they urinate through the shells. They're like more related to like a lobster, I think.
Speaker 2:Or something like that. Really, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1:And they're really good because they're. They decompose everything, like that's their thing. They like eat all sorts of little crap. So they're supposed to be super efficient so they can eat stuff with their mouth. They're just chomping away Little roly-poly little kids. You get them, you play with them. They're cute, yeah. So they can also eat through the butt. What? Yeah, it's like a South Park episode, yeah. And then once they eat and they defecate and they make excrement, then they'll eat that excrement again, just to ensure they get all the nutrition out of their own excrement. Get new food, man. What the Like? Roly polies? No, they're more gross than I thought. Once you start hearing about all that stuff and I want to say that they urinate through their shells or something like that, yeah, they're nasty. Once you start hearing all that, that's gross, right, I used to want to play with them. Now I want to kill them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you get up and you make a little ball, you kind of throw them at each other and all that. They're all rolling around their own excrement, eating it, peeing through their shell, eating through their butt. That was a public service announcement for them. You are welcome world. It's kind of crazy. They've been around forever too. They'll probably be here forever, just like cockroaches. Can't nuke them, they're too small, I know. They'll just be underground somewhere. They'll roll up as soon as that shit drops. I know right, or maybe the radiation doesn't affect them, I don't know, maybe the radiation will affect them. And then when we come out of the caves in a thousand years because we nuked the whole planet there's going to be like these 10-story roly-polies just rolling around from the radiation Starship polies, I know right. Yeah, like the beetle from the bug planet, and it'll just be a roly-poly just eating everybody. God bless it. Love that movie, dude.
Speaker 1:So today is March 23rd, sunday, march 23rd. A lot of stuff happened, man. So for our five viewers that listened to us, first of all, let's just say this Having Grok with us, holy smokes, unhinged, I haven't stopped thinking about her. Man, that was nuts, I mean. She just loved you, yeah, I mean, and then, like our closing last time, I faded out and I left that playing. So if you kept on listening, she just goes off the wall.
Speaker 2:That was cool.
Speaker 1:That was cool. A lot of stuff happened this weekend. I like to read out of this book, though Every time I yeah, it's kind of a cool book. So, today's March 23rd, are you a Pisces? Is it your birthday this month? Aquarius, january 25th. That's why we get along. I'm Pisces, you're Aquarius. We're both water, that's right. Here's to the water people. My birthday just passed. I'm an old man, my buddy's birthday tomorrow. Good, buddy passed away tomorrow too. So like he passed away two years ago now. So it's like you know, to your friends Cheers, he passed away two years ago now. So it's like you know, to your friends, cheers, absolutely Cheers To the homies, to the homies, right, okay. So on March 23rd, some of this is just like really old. It isn't really, I don't know, not crazy about, but I still kind of look at it.
Speaker 1:In 1540, henry VIII completes his dissolution of the Abbeys. I guess that's where they separate from the Catholic Church. Okay, so he completes dissolution of the Abbeys. Okay, that's fair. 1775, oh, okay, here's a good one. 1775, on this day, 1775, a couple hundred years ago, 150 years ago or so, patrick Henry declares give me liberty or give me death. Man, he delivered. Henry delivered a speech at the second virginia convention of richmond during the debate over whether virginia should send troops to join the revolutionary war effort. Following the fire speech, delegates convention named edward carrington was listening to the speech outside the convention and later requested to be buried where he had heard it, and in 1810 he was he was. The immediate effect of the speech was the passage of the of an amendment by the convention declaring the american colonies to be independent of great britain. Henry of the point was appointed to lead the effort to raise militia to join the war. The phrase has become an iconic symbol of American Revolutionary War. Patrick Henry would go on to be the first governor of Virginia following the war. Wow, on this day, I mean who would have thought? Right On this day in 1806, lewis and Clark began their journey home.
Speaker 1:They had they were explored from St Louis across the territory, acquired the Louisiana Perches over the Continental Divide West Coast. Over the previous two years their journey home was faster, aided by the knowledge of the Columbia and Missouri Rivers, and they reached St Louis in September of that year. All right, so today they started going home. They said screw this, we're going home. Screw you guys, I'm going home. They said screw this, we're going home. Screw you guys, I'm going home. Fuck these grizzlies. Could you imagine unconquered America? Just grizzlies everywhere, grizzlies and wolves yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, coyotes, everything wants to kill you Like if you weren't like a man's man and the natives yeah, and the natives. Like if you had a skateboard you're screwed. Like. If you were like a man's man, like Grizzly you know, grizzly Adams like Shotgun Dude, like wearing like a bear blanket over you, like you show up with a bear blanket with his head and everything. You'd be like that man Dude, right Big old girly, burly beard I was picturing sitting in a tavern like a patio or somewhere, and then some dude walks in with the bearskin.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know right, have a seat, sir. Let me buy you the first beer and a whiskey and a sarsaparilla. That guy's mad, and you know the thing about a mountain man like that. They probably have so little contact with people. The way they speak is very stoic, very Spartan, so they don't have a lot to say. So you'd be saying this and that and this, and then they would just say like a one word phrase stupid. Y'all sound like a bunch of women grazily grazily and everybody would be like yep exactly, yes, sir, thank you.
Speaker 1:Oh my god. Okay, yep, exactly yes, sir, thank you. Oh my God. Okay, 1857. The first safety elevator is installed in New York City. What year? 1857. Damn, that's early. The safety elevator was designed by Alicia Otis, founder of the Otis Elevator Company. So the safety? Because, okay, otis installed a braking mechanism on the elevator that would engage if the hoist cable snapped. Okay, the first. So I'm assuming in 1857, there's elevators in New York, but if the cable snapped on them it's like whoa breathe. So I'm assuming there's a bunch of elevators, but the cable snapped. It's like bye, felicia. But thanks to Alicia Otis and Otis Elevator Company in 1857, now they had brakes and you wouldn't just A little more of a pulley system with a backup pulley, maybe something like that? Right, what do we know? Okay, 1909, theodore Roosevelt goes on his famous Safari in Africa, sponsored by the Smithsonian Institute. Oh, wow, he went through a safari Through present day Kenya, congo and Sudan, the Congo, darkland, yeah, wow, silverback gorillas, silverback gorillas, and Teddy was there. Let's see.
Speaker 1:1940, the Lahore Resolution is passed. I don't know what that is. Resolution called for an independent state in the homeland for Muslims to be established in British India. It later formed the basis for the partition of India in 1947, established Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Okay, so that's after World War II? I think maybe. Yeah, it was because Pakistan wasn't established until the 30s. Well, no, no, pakistan, the basis of the partition of India in 1947. Okay, so it was the area of India.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is where Pakistan is. Well, pakistan is separated from India because it was all one country at one point. Okay, where was that one? The Lahore Resolution passed in 1940 and it formed the basis for the partition of India in 1947. 47. Yeah, way before our time. Okay, 1965.
Speaker 1:Oh, gus Grisham and John Young lift off in Gemini 3, the first manned mission of the Gemini program, the first mission to carry more than one American astronaut. You know we don't talk about that, but like, really important, the first time you can get like two people in space at a time, or three people. You know it's like big steps. They did it very little baby steps to get people into space. Never even thought of that. Yeah, like, how important would that be? Like they're launching rockets, then they launch rockets with animals and then you take the thing where you launch rockets with one human and it's like all right, can we do a couple of people and then return them and then kind of lay the foundation for, like, the Apollo missions and all that, yeah, so yeah, you don't think of that, okay.
Speaker 1:2001, today, yeah, so yeah, you don't think of that. Okay, 2001, today, 2001, mer is scrapped and in control. De-orbit, the Russian space station enter earth atmosphere in three stages, eventually breaking up over Fiji in the southern pacific ocean, alright, and then 2003, the battle of Nasiriyah Nasiriyah begins in Iraq. The first major battle in the invasion of Iraqiriyah Nasiriyah begins in Iraq. The first major battle in the invasion of Iraq In private first class. Jessica Lynch was captured during it, becoming the first American prisoner of war. She's from our neighborhood, from El Paso. I didn't realize she was from here, she was either from here or stationed here.
Speaker 1:Okay, that rings a bell. I think she was stationed in.
Speaker 2:Fort.
Speaker 1:Bliss so, and I could be wrong, but, okay, she was rescued by special forces the following week. Okay, and that was March 23rd, god. It's such a cool book though. I love it Very cool.
Speaker 2:Thanks, Jeanette.
Speaker 1:Thank you, jeanette. Jeanette's like okay. Now I can just hit pause and move on to the next podcast. You know what? You better watch the whole show, dude. So God, I feel like so much has gone on. Man, it's just been a crazy week. It's been a crazy week and I like had all sorts of stuff like I was thinking about, thinking about like AI Grok, thinking about. There's this general I've been reading about. Crazy also, I have to see if I, if I have my notes on him still, but then okay, so people may or may not pick this up by now.
Speaker 1:We're from southern new mexico. New mexico, big state, big skies, but uh, um, population like one per every square. I mean no, no, I mean our county has. Our county, which is a big county, only has like 100 000 people, maybe 120 000. I mean that's a sub size of suburb in new york. Do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, like pretty peaceful, like, uh, new mexico is really insulated from the rest of the united states in the sense that when there's an economy slowdown or anything goes on, we don't feel it right away or we don't feel it to the degree like big cities. Do you know? The home crisis around the country was really big and it is here too but maybe not to the same degree Very deep Hispanic roots.
Speaker 1:You've got a huge Hispanic, mexican, mexican-american population, the old-timers you think about the old-timers very patriotic people, very religious people. They had just your traditional Mexican town, but it's like a big Mexican town. Very successful too. Just your traditional Mexican town, but it's like a big Mexican town, yeah, very successful too. Like Las Cruces people don't realize is people that worked at White Sands during World War II testing missiles and bombs, the A-bomb. They probably lived If they didn't live in Alamogordo, which was like a little hole in the wall. They lived here because we're only like 45 minutes from there, right, you know. Like Tomba there, right, you know. And like Tombaugh, tombaugh, yeah, tombaugh, I mean, one of the greatest astronomers, is from here, you know, and we're just a stone's throw from Fort Bliss, one of the largest military stations in the country, I mean. Then you have Juarez, mexico, I mean. So there's a lot. The Trinity site, that's right. Mesilla, where the Gadsden Purchase was signed Yep, that's right. So there's a lot of cool history. Fort Seldon here is where the Buffalo Soldiers were stationed. Pancho Villa lived here.
Speaker 1:Billy the Kid's gone through here many times. Yep, there's a mountain range called the Rebolitos and there's supposed to be like a little black peak there called it's not Bishop's Cap. I don't think it's called Kettle Top or something like that Kettle Top or Bishop's Cap, because I know on the Oregon there's one called Sugarloaf, but that's a white peak, but over here there's a little black one and they say, if you go looking there you can see where billy the kid like, kid like, carved his name into the rocks. Oh, is that like a little past oregon? No, under reba lito's is, um, that side of town over there. You know the mountain range that goes on the other side of the river, yeah, yeah, yeah so apparently there's a cavern or like a cave that he would hide in.
Speaker 1:When you go up 70 past oregon, it's uh like has a door and everything that you just, yeah, there's a door there. And then the other little mountain range right there between those ones, the Robledos and the Oregon Mountains, then there's the Donianas and there's caves there too. Where they would, the Indians used it, but he did too, to get away from law officials or the cavalry. I've heard I don't know if it's true or not that Geronimo hid there for a bit. Yeah, apparently Geronimo hid there as well. Yeah, or he would use it to get away from the Calvary. Again, the Indians would ride east, cross the Oregon, cross the White Sands, and that was like a big thing for it back then on horseback. You didn't cross White Sands because there's no water unless you knew where it was, at which the Indians knew the Camino de Muerte. You know you just didn't make that pass unless you were prepared. You know so a lot of good history here in this area, the San Luis Obispo mountains and all that stuff. So, and I'm trying to lay this framework because people can relate to it. If you're from a small town, you know small town vibes, good people and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:So this past weekend, man, things just went crazy. Like I don't even know where to start. I don't even know how it started. So the speculation right now is gangs. It was gang related. Are they saying gang related? I've heard talk of that. That's more on the rumor mill at this point. But yeah, the cops arrested a fourth suspect today. Really, I heard two people were in custody. So what happened?
Speaker 1:There was a park it's called Young's Park here. It's a little lake there. People go there walking around. It's a nice place during the day to do stuff at. We have Renaissance Fairs there. Renaissance Fairs, yeah, all sorts of stuff Like throughout the year, go on there. These two, like all summers, walk there. I'd say it's our main park. Honestly, I think it is. I think more people do more things there than anywhere, or something I've heard for at least a few weeks, at least for a few weeks.
Speaker 1:Well, this it was Friday night, yeah, because I heard about Saturday morning I was going to a funeral, fall plays, I was going to a funeral and they're talking about this. But Friday night there was a car show and young kids, teenagers, teenagers, yeah, and they I don't know, somebody pulled the gun up like an AR and then somebody else pulled something and there's people walking around with guns like nothing and then who knows? I mean, I don't know. I guess we'll find out as time goes on, but were people walking around showing off or were they trying to intimidate others? My theory from what the footage looks like, because the footage or the images with the kid with the AR, and his homie.
Speaker 1:So they weren't involved and, mind you, it was a nice AR too, like, if you look at it, it had like the rails and everything on there. It like looked nice Really, yeah. So apparently they were visiting from Deming and they would come into town and do that stuff and Deming another Damning another small town, even smaller, where the weapons laws are going to be the brandishing. It's probably going to be more likely used in places like in El Maguro there at TRC, because it's not really a big city thing, wouldn't you say?
Speaker 1:I mean, I know people do carry here that we see them, but I've never really seen other than protests where someone's brandishing a rifle like that. I've never seen that here I protest when someone's brandishing a rifle like that. I've never seen that here. There I really haven't seen people brandish weapons, like semi-automatic weapons, just walking around like nothing. That's a big city thing. That's where I usually see that, yeah, like I'm. I just I'm saying like the gun acceptance.
Speaker 2:Yeah, is a little bigger or Well.
Speaker 1:I think New Mexico is like we're a southern state. It's a southern state and we're right next door to Texas and gun culture, hunting, everything. Arizona on the other side Very accepted, not a big deal. A lot of people go to hunter safety. It's just weird that some random kids pull up and start walking around with guns. I bet you what they were doing was like. For the last few weeks people were like, yeah, we got guns.
Speaker 2:We're holding guns, they talk trash Talk, trash to the next guy? Not even that.
Speaker 1:It could have been like acting like you're in a music video, you know, acting like you're the big badass because, oh, like, don't fuck with me because I'll kill you, yeah, yeah, and it seems like someone got to talking. I'm sure this wasn't the first night where people were talking shit to each other. Things usually escalate.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, there's fear that it could escalate and then if now and then if you know it's going to go on again next week a car show, then you come back. After you talk trash, yeah, you bring a gun. And so the two guys that got arrested, first their brothers, who actually lived across the street from there. So yeah, just thinking just theoretically. They don't have cars, they're poor kids who live in the neighborhood nearby, just walk over and they probably get clowned on that.
Speaker 1:They don't have vehicles or they probably feel a certain type of way their own insecurities spilled out. They get angry with someone else oh, you want to fuck with my brother. The other dude does the same thing and unfortunately it seems like, yeah, there's four suspects right now. They talk trash. So, overall, so there's a shooting and there's videos of the shooting, like Guns going off, but not of the shooter, not of the shooter, but you have people with the videos, yeah, and like tons of rounds going off In a short amount of time, and then, uh, three people were killed.
Speaker 1:You can only imagine what that looks like to a viewer in like washington or you're in chicago, you're like damn, it's popping off down there yeah, no kidding, like you hear all that and then people running and all that and 17 people hit, and that I I understood there was an update from um, so it was 15 injured, three dead dead, so it was 18 people hit, oh, 18. And 15 injured was the last number that I heard, so 18 people got hit.
Speaker 1:One of them, from what I understand, shot right in the head, like executed on sight yeah, I heard about that. So I mean that's just To say that it was just like executed, like it probably was the first one to go, man, like probably one of the ones. I was talking, like thinking about the way things go down, like oh yeah, like right in front. So I wonder how many people got. Who got injured were either affiliates of the situation or people who were just standing behind those people.
Speaker 1:Unfortunately, it's just stupid, man, it is just stupid. So I'm gonna try to capture this and then I'll um. Either I'll capture on on here or I'll capture it on my iPad. But somebody sent me this update on TikTok. Here we go.
Speaker 2:This news conference is to give an update on a mass casualty incident mass shooting that occurred last night, on 3-21-2025, at Young Park, which was located at 1905 Nevada Avenue.
Speaker 2:There was an unsanctioned car show at the park prior to the shooting. The call for the gunshot victims came in at approximately 10 10 pm, again on 321 2025. The investigation so far reveals that there is an altercation between two groups of people and that altercation escalated to gunfire between both groups. Several other people were also injured in the crossfire. Officers arrived on the scene and began treating people immediately. While trying to deal with the chaos of that situation, bystanders, some of them, had already started administering treatment. Las Cruces Fire arrived very quickly and they began immediately rendering aid, despite the fact that the scene was not secure yet thing. Oscars fire chief michael daniel will give a quick summary here in a minute of the treatment that was provided and some of the transport, but as of right now, there are 15 people that are injured and three that have passed away. This is a huge crime scene with a lot of moving parts. It will take time to process it thoroughly and reopen everything.
Speaker 1:So that update was on the New York Post. What time was that on there? This was, I don't know. Did it tell me the time on here? It should be updated or posted. I don't know this is from. I don't know when this was posted, either way.
Speaker 1:Marty, I am not that smart, Artie. I doubt that. It's interesting that he said unsanctioned, because unsanctioned there's no security. There's no security, there's no permit, no, nothing, there's no police presence. It's been going on for a while. Keep that in mind. So they were just saying we're going to get together, we're going to do this car show, we're going to go there, we're going to do this, and because of that, there's no security and again, there's no police presence. And we know that police presence does keep people in check, but God bless a bunch of kids.
Speaker 1:I mean, it does seem like a situation that went a little. No one was keeping an eye on it. And here's the thing. So I saw that video of this teenager 17, right, I'm gathering 17. And he's brandishing an AR-15. Yeah, him and his friend were holding it at some point. Yeah, at a park. It's like okay. So I'm going to gather that your average 17-year-old kid, I mean to save enough money to buy a nice AR, much less to go buy one. I don't think a 17-year-old can buy one hands down without parental consent. I don't know, damn yeah. I don't know, damn yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:I mean that might be a question for Grok, because you know I really enjoyed using Grok. Grok seems like a really nice help. I think she's great. Hi Ara, real quick question Can a 17-year-old buy a gun?
Speaker 3:Hi there. Since it's just you and me chatting, I'll keep it simple. In the US, federal law says you have to be 21 to buy a handgun from a licensed dealer, but for rifles or shotguns, 18 is the minimum. Some states have stricter rules, though, and since I don't have the latest on every state, it did depend on where you are. Private sales might be different too, but that's a whole other gray area. Does that help?
Speaker 1:That helps Great, thank you.
Speaker 3:Glad I could help Anything.
Speaker 1:Dude, it's just nice having somebody that can answer questions like that. But okay so, rifles 18, but these kids weren't even 18. But okay so, rifles 18, but these kids weren't even 18. So I mean, like I'm just trying to understand like, do the parents know their kids have these ARs? Like, do the parents be? Like, are they going to be like, hey, I'm going to go to the car show, I'm going to take my assault rifle too? Absolutely not, no way. Do you know what I mean? There's no way they know. So the question is where did the kids get the guns from? You know what I mean? Yeah, what did the parents know? And they're 17. Yeah, they're going to get charged. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't get charged as an adult. Okay, so have you heard?
Speaker 2:anything on that. So it's two different cases.
Speaker 1:I hear a lot of people talking about the four suspects who got arrested. The kids who were seen on those photos were not involved in the shooting at all. They might be looking at other charges independently. I'm sure a detective was looking at that already on their own, while the cops did a really good job of figuring out who the two shooters the brothers were and the other four. So from what I understand, I believe the shooters are 19, 17, and then there's a 16 and possibly a 15-year-old that got arrested Might be the fourth person, I believe he's 15.
Speaker 1:So I mean, I'm sure there's laws about shooting guns in the city and a park. Again, were these guns like? Did you buy it from a store? Did your parents buy them? Were they your parents' guns? Did you steal them? Were they illegal Like? There's so many like questions, because now you're talking about federal laws, right in regards to like gun laws, but then you have the matter of the. So you had what? 18 total, three dead, 15 hit, and so you could theoretically say 15 charges of attempted murder, yep, three charges of murder, and then, depending on who shot what, what their roles were, do you know?
Speaker 2:what I mean.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I guess, legally speaking, attempted. If everyone was hit in the torso, if it's leg or arm shot, who knows, Like I don't know what the lawyer would be able to get rid of that. Should I try to get this thing? I know there's like this fly buzzing around. Artie's got the. I don't know if I have another square battery for that, but there's been this fly going around and you know, when there's one annoying fly, that's it, Like it's it Is that dying.
Speaker 1:No, that means it's on. So we have this nice little zappy fly squatter, but we're all just sitting here like, okay, we're going to get this little son of a gun. It'll pop up, I'll get him. Dude, you zap and it falls on your cheek. I hope not, okay. Quick question, give me a quick fix. Have you ever like, maybe in the middle of the night, you go for a drink of water or something? You have a cup there or something and there's a fly in your drink. Oh, do you drink?
Speaker 2:a fly? Oh, I have.
Speaker 1:I have. I always have like cans of bangs and all that and I try to keep like something on to keep them covered. But I remember one day I woke up and I just started drinking one and I was like the hell is that? And I go and I pull it out of my mouth and I go, oh, it's a fucking fly. This is a fly episode. Man, if anything, your immune system is strong there's a silver lining oh, my god and I remember I played it off.
Speaker 1:Like I hate flies all the time, it's okay. Is that not the first fly you've eaten? I cannot answer that honestly, because I just don't recount, but I cannot. I don't want to say a definite no or yes. You know what I mean. So, okay, you've heard statistics, like in your sleep, over the course of your life. They say you eat something like 80 spiders over the course of your life. They say you eat something like 80 spiders over the course of your life. I've heard that, but I feel like it's an urban legend. I don't know, like, like I know because. But you think about, like, how many times have you ever woken up because there was like a mosquito or something? Oh yeah, like buzzing around your ear?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's happened. Yeah, so you know. So you're snoring or breathing.
Speaker 1:Like a spider just crawled up on your bed, like you're like drooling on your bed and it just kind of like slowly makes its way towards you and you wouldn't know the difference. Yeah, or your beard, like it just kind of gets in there and you know, spiders probably step so lightly. I mean it's possible because I remember one time I was like nine in Vado at my grandparents' house out in the farmland and I took a nap it was like Saturday at 10 in the morning Took a nap, woke up and I remember just feeling my blanket. I don't know what woke me up.
Speaker 1:And I opened my eyes and there's a fucking caterpillar looking right at me A caterpillar.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I smacked that fucker.
Speaker 1:No joke I killed him, my buddy Mike from Philadelphia. He was crashed out. Him and his chick were living with each other and I didn't hear about this until like the next day. I was like, hey, where were you at yesterday? He goes. I had to go to the hospital. I was like what do you mean? You went to the hospital. What happened? He goes. I got pricked by a scorpion. I'm like, oh, that sucks. You're like what the hell are you doing with a scorpion? How did that happen? He goes. No, I was asleep.
Speaker 2:I was like what.
Speaker 1:Fuck that scorpion, dude. And he says the blanket was hanging off the bed or something and it crawled up and from him moving or something, it like stung him and he said it was like the most horrible pain. Dude, imagine waking up and saw like a scorpion on your leg, like what the hell? Right, like I know, like yeah, that was so close.
Speaker 1:I know. So that's got to be like the worst thing in the world. So when I lived in a town called Las Lunas it was just south of Albuquerque and it's a subdivision at the edge of the desert and I kid you, not man, like three, what are probably the three worst insects you could see in your home? Three Millipede or centipede, centipede okay, take that Scorpion, scorpion, tarantula, okay. So in my house daily there were scorpions, centipedes, and then at night, like when I'd have like the lights on jerusalem, crickets oh, they're loud, huh, they're loud, they're real gross to look like. Once one of the big black ones, yeah, once I once I started like researching them.
Speaker 1:They're actually pretty harmless oh yeah, they don't bite you or do anything they'll just jump or eat your fucking clothes yeah, they're like gross but holy smokes.
Speaker 1:So I had my dog, kennels, and I lived in this house a lot. So I'd come home late at night or wake up in the morning always a centipede or a scorpion on the floor everywhere, like what the hell? I'd buy like the medicines for scorpion and centipedes because your regular raid won't kill them, so you have to get like um medicine specifically for them. Devil's bug bro. So like, oh, it was like right in your face, I know. So, okay, I need you to write this down. Okay, get a salt gun, bro. You ever seen those salt guns? Oh, yeah, I have this thing might be dead bro. No, I don't think so. Let me see If I it's dead. Oh, so there's just enough for the. I'm going to flip the batteries around and see what happens, okay. So, yeah, we're going to get a salt gun, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:Imagine doing that. So okay. So my bed, because I remember my story from my friend Mike. So whenever I would move a kennel like the dog kennel, and the kennels I had were like the plastic ones that had a big lip on them. So whenever I would move a, kennel always centipedes underneath the kennels.
Speaker 1:No, that shit's dead. I always wondered about that. They're double A's. Yeah, I do. We can get some here in a little bit. I'm going to hit him, I know. Okay. So I got a flashlight Maybe the size of your vape there, and it was a black light so I kept it by my bed. So whenever I woke up at night I'd shine the black light and the scorpions have like a white greenish glow at night, really Like in a black light, and the scorpions have like a white greenish glow at night Really.
Speaker 1:Like in a black light they would like glow.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I would do that to spot them at night and make sure. Like when I was stepping down, then it terrified me to think of these insects getting in my bed. So what I did is I had these crates and they were like shipping crates. They were about, like you know, two feet deep, a foot and a half maybe something like that, and they had a real smooth plastic side. So I got about six of them and I put them all underneath my bed and I put my bed on top of it, so that way if a centipede or a scorpion was going to climb up, they would have a challenge getting up the smooth side of it. That's smart. And then, that way, if my blanket fell, if it fell, it's going to fall, because the bed was really high off the ground. So I had to hop to get on my bed because, like you were really concerned about this, dude, I was really asleep over it.
Speaker 1:How did you get the bed so high? Well, I put it on the boxes, those shipping boxes On those boxes. Yeah, because I turned them upside down. Um, these, they're the, they're the kind of, they're the kind of tote box you use for shipping, and then they have the lids that you know kind of fold, fold in, like so, yeah and so and like I say the, the the outside of them is very smooth plastic. Those are pretty sturdy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, then I put six of them and I put and in the middle and, um, I never had a an issue with them going in my bed, but like, even with like my laundry, I was always like, okay, like I take my shirt off, I'm not gonna throw it on the ground, like my shoes. I always kept my shoes like on on top of like furniture or something. That was like, if I'm gonna wear that, I'm not gonna. You know, yeah, make yourself, yeah, put my foot, my foot, in the shoe with a scorpion or something. It sucked, it really sucked. Like nothing I could do, could ever get rid of them, like they were always there.
Speaker 1:Was the concern based on that one story that you heard yeah, I don't blame you, man. And then you know what everybody says about centipedes. They get on you. They just like Is that true? I don't know that they'll dig, like their legs into you and that they don't, they're not necessarily poisonous, but they're filthy, and that if they bite you or they get their legs dig into you Get infected. You get infected. Then once they get into you, it's hard to get them off. You gotta burn them off, or what. Burn them off or get scissors and cut their legs to get them to come off.
Speaker 3:Jesus, oh to get them to come off Jesus. Oh, I know right.
Speaker 1:Like ugh, like yeah, I'm getting a blowtorch. Yeah, like so, okay. So then that's when I had Spartacus to pit my pit bull and he didn't really seem to have any issues with him, but God, you always see him everywhere. So the neighbor across the street, I'd always go help him. So one day he comes and he brings me over some clam chowder. He says, hey, I made some New England clam chowder homemade, we're from out east. I was like, all right, cool, so I eat it and I fall asleep on my recliner because I'll sleep. I'm terrified to sleep on anything. So I slept on my recliner and I didn't realize it, I left the bowl on the kitchen counter and my pit bull gets it.
Speaker 1:And you know the pit bulls, they have like really wrinkly skin, yeah. So I think I fell asleep in the afternoon or something. And because when I woke up at night I was like I get, my dog was like really uncomfortable. I was like what the hell is going on. And I go and his whole face is swollen Like all the wrinkles are just like what? Yeah, he ate the clam chowder and he has shellfish allergies. Oh, no, yeah. And I was like you, you could tell, like you could tell. He was just all, and he just had the saddest look on his face and I was like you, stupid.
Speaker 1:So, uh, um, 15 years ago, you could go online. You could already go online at that point on my phone, and so I don't remember what phone I had. I think I might have had the chocolate, so I don't remember if I used my cell phone or if I used my laptop and I googled, like what do you do? What can you give your pets? And so I was like I can't afford to go to a veterinarian, like a 24 hour one. I doubt anybody's open when I'm at. So I googled get a children's Benadryl. So ran down to Walgreens, got the children's Benadryl because it doesn't have alcohol, and I got the liquid and the pills and I poured it in the bowl and tried to get him to drink it out of the bowl. He did a little bit, but he wasn't like crazy about it. I just grabbed him. Yeah, I just made him drink it and he was miserable and just put him in the kennel and waited it out. How long did it take for him to level up? It was a good 40 hours, yeah.
Speaker 1:So my pit bull, he just had bouts with everything, like he was an amazing dog. Ate the clam chowder had shellfish allergies, he made it. So then he had a wonky ear that was like a V. It was not just like a V, like that, because he got into a fight with a coyote and they chomped it up so much that part of the ear just shriveled up and died. And he shook his head once and it just flew off. Oh shit, yeah, like, and it tore open the skin on his skull. So I took him to the vet. They gave me like, they cleaned it and they gave me antibiotics and so I gave it to them, but it was really bad. It was still getting infected. And a friend of mine says you know what we used to do back in Pennsylvania Just get sugar, pack the wound with sugar and bandage them up. So I did that, drew the infection out. No way it worked. The sugar drew the infection out, infection went away, the head healed and he was a retard still after that.
Speaker 1:And then, uh, I had rat poison, and rat poison it's like a kind of like a fishy flavor to attract animals and, uh, I keep it in the garage. It's not like I keep rat poison in the kitchen. But I, I like I had blocks of rat poison because you know, when you live by the desert you get a lot of field mice, you get a lot of this, you get a lot of that, and usually you put it in like a little container. But I had a package of it and it came like in a bar and he in each bar was about a pound and he ate almost a full bar of rat poison. No, like, I found a piece of it and I was like what the fuck? And I realized I didn't close the garage door all the way.
Speaker 1:And so I'm like what the hell? I'm all looking around and I'm trying to figure out how many bars of rat poison do I have. And I'm trying to calculate in my head and I was like, so I called the 1-800 number on there and uh and uh, they're like oh. So I started, I started reading, like right away. I started reading like okay, what do I do? What do I need to uh, to uh, counteract rat poison at the very minimal? So you need vitamin K, something, k 12 or something like that. And so I'm like okay, like okay, go to the local like livestock store, horse down, or something like I was like, okay, they have it there.
Speaker 1:And so I'm calling the lady up and and she's like, um, the, the poison control place on the package. And they and they say, well, how many ounces your bar, your dog eat? I was like, well, it's 16 ounces to the bar. She goes, yeah, yeah, we see that. So how many ounces your dog eat? Probably about 15. And she's like, oh, and she goes, yeah, that's not good. And I was like, well, what do I do? She goes, well, you need K12. How many do I need? I'll go buy at the local store. She goes, no, you're not going to be able to buy that quantity of vitamin K for the counteract the rat poison. And I was like, dang, at least try. She goes. She goes, you got to go to get a vet and it has to be injected. It's like I'm like freaking out, like, oh, fine, oh, it's like oh, because I know it's going to cost me a couple hundred dollars. But I'm pissed.
Speaker 1:I like my dog, yeah, and I'm afraid to do anything to my dog. I'm afraid to like let him jump or anything because, um, the way those poisons go, they're slow, kill they, you bleed to death. So if he have done anything. He could have bled to death. That wouldn't even mean his food, like I was freaking out.
Speaker 1:And so I take him to the vet and the vet's like, oh, it's all Spartacus again. I'm kind of telling him what's going on and he's like, oh, and they say we need this many milligrams of vitamin K, k-12, whatever it is, k12, whatever it is, k5, k12. I don't remember what it was specifically. And he goes, okay, okay. So he goes and he brings out these syringes, two of them Like big syringes, like that fat around, like that big Of K12? Yes, full, both of them. And he's like well, we got to give your dog an injection. How much are you going to give all to him? I was like, really he goes. Yeah, your dog's going to get a lot. And I was like and he goes, they gave my dog and they gave him the most injections and he must have used your pet and they know he didn't fight them or anything.
Speaker 1:He was just kind of bummed out and I was like I'm freaking out because I think this is it. And I asked the vet. I was like, so you gave my dog this shot. What happens? Now he goes, we wait and see. I was like he goes, yeah, he goes, he may pull through, he may not. Just you put him in his kennel, don't let him get out, don't let him eat anything, don't let anything that will cause any sort of agitation scratch or anything that will cause the top to start bleeding, and we'll just see what happens. Just give him water and the vet says, if you're lucky, 50-50. You know that's about as good as it's going to get. And so, yes, I just waited, like one day turned into two, turned into three, and that dude made it Like one day turned into two, turned into three, and that dude made it Like, made it to be like 14, 15 years old.
Speaker 1:Holy crap, Spartacus.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, k-12 works.
Speaker 1:Then Stupid dog Fell into. I gotta take him to the mountains, go climb rocks. He rolled into a cactus once. I had to take all the cactus needles out. Like, yeah, like, just, yeah, like, yeah, like just.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Picture that dog in here man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm going to put it right here. I'm going to take this map and put it behind me and put him right here. But there's a picture I'm looking for because I really like it. But, holy smokes, that little jerk ate a pound of rat poison and survived. Jesus, yeah, I was so pissed. So did the K-12 cost extra? Oh, yeah, it cost a lot. It was like a $500 visit just for the shots. Like not surgery, no, nothing, just because of the shots.
Speaker 3:Like Fucking dog.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it was. You know, whenever I would drive to California, texas or I think, all these road trips I'd always take them. I'd always get pictures of them peeing everywhere. It was just funny. It was just funny. He was a good dog. He was just a great dog. He handled the road well and got his ass whipped by coyotes and 8K12 and shellfish allergies and hell of a life. Yeah, you know it was cool. It was cool, so that was my dog. You know it was cool, it was cool, so that was my dog. But anyways, going back to what we're talking about, man, crazy how violence just sweeps in out of the blue one day, you know, and it was a big one, like the last. Well, there's always shootings and robberies here, but last time we made national news like that was probably for, like, the bowling alley murders. Yeah, random guys come in they say there say so many theories about that drug related, cartel related, whatever. But basically they went in, they robbed the bowling alley, put people down on their knees and shot them in the head.
Speaker 1:Um, you know, executed execution so, yeah, you know, and uh, um, I don't know, man, I really kind of thought about this this week like I was telling this to my friend of mine on Saturday. I was, like you know, the first time I shot a Mosin Nagant. That was a Soviet made bolt action rifle and it was used as a sniper's rifle and then it had a hinge where you could flip the bayonet over, like and you know, lock the bayonet in, and uh, um, and you could, you could buy armor piercing rounds for it, like here locally, and it's a big round, it's. It's a bigger round than my 30 out six, because we'd compare them. And it was a bigger round.
Speaker 1:And the the head of it had a steel bar in it and we were screwing around the desert, walking around, shooting everything, and there was a pipe my buddy's like check this out and it was, like you know, probably like a three-inch pipe and it was like a quarter-inch steel all the way around and he shoots it with his rifle. And that rifle popped through one end of it, clear out the other. He shot into it. Yeah, he shot through the side of the pipe, cause it was just like laying there and it just went like in one side and out the other, and I remember thinking like what the hell?
Speaker 1:like like does a does a body armor even start? Stop this, it's got to still rot. And like like we're sending guys out to fight in wars and this is what's being shot at them. I mean, does the helmet even help at that point? Do you know what I mean? No way, yeah. And I, and I remember that, the idea of the permanence of it, like thinking, like, like what will that do to a person? Like that steel rod hit the bone, shatters your bone, whatever. Like you know a bullet will shatter your bone either way, but like armor piercing around, what it will do to human? Like stupid. And I wonder if a young guy gets a gun and he's showing off to his friends and all that. I wonder if they ever think about that. Like the connection between death and how quick a bullet can take someone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no they don't it's optic.
Speaker 1:It's all optics, movies, videos. I just yeah, video games, even like my .45,. We had some steel sights up there shooting at these steel sights, 45 just tears right through them, and me and fobs, we were looking at those steel sights we had just bought just had holes torn through them and we're like damn .30-06 and a .40 caliber handgun just blowing holes through it. It's like what chance do you have? Not much. No, you know
Speaker 1:what I mean. And so you have kids running around with these firearms, because I'm the one, I'm of the type that you know, the firearms is just the instrument. The instrument doesn't kill. You know what I mean? You could kill somebody with a knife. You could kill somebody with a knife. You could kill somebody with a hammer Blunt, force, right, just a bat Bash in their head, they're dead. Well, you could make all bats illegal, but I guess it's just that permanence of like, hey, this is a serious thing. And when you point it at somebody, you know that old saying don't point it at somebody unless you intend to use it. But it's like if you intend to use it, do you know the consequences? Like, this is not a video game. When you point this weapon at somebody and you use it. That's it. They're gone. There's no coming back. And what are you going to call? You're pointing at somebody because you're pissed off for who knows what reason. Talking shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Where's the self-defense? I'm sorry. I mean, like there's no justification in it. Like that guy that walked into Walmart and he's shooting people in El Paso, like a couple years ago Nobody had a gun and fired back on him which is surprising for Texas, I guess but like, if somebody pulled out a handgun and shot at this guy, that would be completely different because he's walking around killing people. But that's not even this. This is like a park where there's people for the weekend, and like an unsanctioned gun or car show and I know, I've seen those where people just pull up, they start playing music, they're all just kind of hang out, something to do on a Saturday night.
Speaker 1:But you're going to just kind of pull out a gun. Just, I don't know, you're the big man or something. I don't. I don't get it. Like, what Cause you're tough? Like, like, like you say like, do you think? Like, does anybody think? Like man, as soon as it goes off, I have to point to somebody. As soon as I point to somebody, something's going to happen, somebody's going to die. Like, like, where's the mental connection? Like this person's going to die. This is not a video game. No more. This is real man. They. No more. This is real. They're so angry that's what the goal is. They're like I'm going to kill this motherfucker and everyone's going to see.
Speaker 1:I'm not the one to fuck with Stupid shit. This is why I'm not opposed to the whole elimination of the Department of Education. Education was so different prior to my days. Even in my days it was different. But then think about my parents' days and my parents' parents. How much different it was.
Speaker 1:Even when I was in school they had brought a rifle out there and they would show you how the rifle works and all that. There was still gun safety and this is like when I was really young, but that went away too. But at one point, uh, uh, weapons training and weapon safety was a part of, was a part of the curriculum and be like just like shop and it's like, hey, this is a real thing, this will hurt people. This is why you don't point it at people. You know it's weird how that and civics have gone away. And you go to Israel People walking around with not AR-15s but the military version, not the M15s, but like the military version, not the M-15, but the. It's not an M-15 anymore, it's like the newest version of whatever it is now you know SKS.
Speaker 1:No, sks is a Russian, it's like an American, it's a non-Russian made Kalashnikov. So an AK-47 is a Klitschnikov right A Russian, made or licensed by a Soviet country, but in those days. But SKS is like the non-automatic, the semi.
Speaker 2:Almost like an.
Speaker 1:American made or Brazilian made or whatever you know. So but even then like, but you go like israel and you see people walking around with their military rifles. Chicks, dressed up, gorgeous, and they have like their purse automatic rifle hanging over their shoulder. Everyone just walking around and you don't have people just randomly shooting people in the streets. You know switzerland, everybody owns automatic rifles. You know it's like a thing like small country You're going to own an automatic, you will own an automatic rifle. You don't have that crazy gun violence there. It's mandatory. I don't know now, but like after World War II it was.
Speaker 2:No way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was like if you went in the military, it was like you're going to own a weapon. Uh, you even have the option of, like, keeping your weapon or something when you got out of the military as a invasion preventative. Yeah, everybody was going to be armed to the teeth, but uh, um, I like it and it seemed like there was a time when everybody here in america had guns or were or something, and I mean, we all still but but there was like, uh, everybody used it and everybody learned about it and understood it.
Speaker 1:There was like a different respect around it. Everyone hunted. Yeah, it wasn't going to be something like somebody's going to talk shit to you, you're going to be at a park and you're going to pull it out. No, that's some bitch shit Again, it's that thing. If you're going to pull it out, you're going to pull it out. You're going to point at somebody. Don't point unless you intend to use it. But if you use it, these are the consequences. This is what happens. People die. They do not come back from it. So that's the one extreme that I'm hoping will happen that people like stop and be nice to each other and recognize how short life is very 9-11, get back to cruises, like you know being the old way, or I don't know how deeply gang-related it is, I don't know either it could be retaliation.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, it could be complete retaliation. You know what I mean. Like a whole gang work is going to start from Friday. I am sure that there's even going to be those people that are going to come out Elon Musk and Donald Trump. Let me get one of those.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah go for it, man. I forgot my pack, man. They're going to come out and be like it's Donald Trump or an Elon Musk, and that's why this happens, Like they're trying to take away our guns. Trying to take away our guns and we have a very liberal governor in the state of New Mexico.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:She tried to. She tried to put out guns in the city of albuquerque for a short while and uh, and it was ruled unconstitutional and got shut down. That's a wild step. Yeah, she said, uh, gun get on. Gun violence had gotten to the point that it was like epidemic in albuquerque and she was gonna pass. Uh, she passed like some sort of um, it was because of that one guy that shot the people at the rally, right, something like that. Do you remember that?
Speaker 1:no, I don't so there is like a protest going on and opposing sides and one guy I guess he had a weapon on him, but so, like one of the hippies ended up punching him and like, yeah, he killed like two guys. Wow, it's all on video. No, well, well, some it could have been part of that or something, but she came out and she put a moratorium on guns in Albuquerque. And they came out and said, well, you can't do that, that's unconstitutional. Yeah, it sounds like a good idea, but I don't know. I don't know, it's just crazy man. Yeah, that sounds like an extra step, like very reactionary, and I'm pretty sure that that shooting was in Albuquerque and it's around the same time.
Speaker 2:It's around, it's got to be related.
Speaker 1:Maybe there was like a number of shootings in that particular window of time, which is why they came up with that. See, I'm seeing that little guy sitting on the. Oh, you missed him as soon as turned around and he left. I just named the fly Doug. Doug, you're gonna die. You're gonna die, doug. But yeah, I don't know, man. And if you think about guns and society and I've had this argument and I think you can argue it well, you go down to a country like Mexico.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was close.
Speaker 1:There's already the fly killer. Everyone I need batteries. Is this FAAs? It might, it might, damn it. Oh my God, that's hilarious. All right, please continue. Okay, now you've got me thinking. Does this have double A's? It might, it might damn it.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, that's hilarious alright, please continue okay now you've got me thinking do I have batteries in here? I'm gonna get them. I'll order the. I'll order the salt gun. Yeah, I'm gonna order the salt gun. That way we can just sit here and shoot the. I know that's funny. We're opening everything like oh, it's only got double A's, man, that's a triple A, that's a triple.
Speaker 2:A. Oh my God, that's funny, that's triple A.
Speaker 1:Or triple A. I mean, yeah, they're all triple A, but you but you know you go to a country like Mexico.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And gun violence and violence against women, and there's all sorts of crazy violence, right, and violence against women. There's all sorts of crazy violence. Guns are related to a lot of this violence, but part of the equation is because of the lack of guns, it allows for further gun violence from those that have it Like England. Whoa Fly flashed before my eyes. Did you see him? You came like yes, I just felt that wrap. He's on that wall. You want to try?
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm going to go for it. He's right there.
Speaker 1:Right on the top Next to the phone.
Speaker 2:Okay, we're going to go for this, I would not hit you, mike, I promise.
Speaker 1:Ah, he's gone Right there. Oh my god, this is funny. We're just so focused on this fly, but, uh, should we take a fly killing break?
Speaker 2:oh, no, I got him.
Speaker 1:No way I got him, but I don't know if he's dead, smash him, I'll be right back. Artie hold on to the fork good aim, I'll be right back, artie, hold on to the fork. Good aim, that's what happens. You come out of the wrong podcast. I say You're right though he did, it's not electrocuting him. Did you find him? Yes, he's dead, you're right.
Speaker 2:We need batteries. Oh man, I hit him, I hit him hard, good job.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hey, I got you, I got this, I got this, so okay. So I mean, we're talking about gun violence and everything. Here we are violence against flies, the Buddhists would not approve.
Speaker 1:But therein lies the problem with Mexico the lack of guns. People like you have the new drug gang that comes in, the new jefe, wipes everybody out and gets rid of people and people in the town can't defend themselves. They have no guns. The police are no use, either they don't want to because they know they'll get wiped out, or they're kind of already on the payroll already as it is Yep, like there's just no self-defense.
Speaker 1:And when the violence got so bad in southern Mexico, people started getting guns illegally, you know, like automatic rifles, and they started making the auto-defense forces. How do they call it Auto-defense? Like the self-defense, like those groups of men that would protect their areas, and like towns would get together to protect their areas from cartels and they'd start fighting cartels Like a neighborhood watch, kind of like a neighborhood, but like loaded to the teeth, armed to the teeth. Why? Because they didn't, the government wasn't doing anything about it, they didn't want to, or they were in cahoots or something. You know what I mean. Like whatever the reason was the government, the local police? Nobody did so. Local communities, little villages, took matters into their own hand. They came together, they made auto they call them auto defense groups went. Who knows, they probably bought the guns illegally, because that's how mexico? Just tons of legal guns. And they just started fighting cartels in these little areas all over mexico where people are trying to protect themselves, and the government said we can't do that. Well, like well, you're not doing anything.
Speaker 2:Vigilante is badass.
Speaker 1:They had to and everything that happened in Jalisco, like a week ago, where there was a ranch in Jalisco that's reminiscent of a Nazi death camp and the local government in Jalisco knew about it. They investigated, they came out and said we didn't find anything. We knew that it was a training area for cartels, we knew that people were taken there, but we didn't find anything. So, again, what the people do is they come up with their auto defenses, but they also have private forensics that they do themselves. So they went into this area and they did like a forensic investigation and you're talking like piles of clothes, piles of shoes. They found ovens where they were just getting rid of the remains of people. They're finding bone fragments, like tons and tons of bones throughout the whole property where just tons of people were being eliminated. After the local government came in and said, nope, all clear, it's all good. 1,500. 1,500 bodies, something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, something crazy. That the local police force, the local government, said wasn't there, talk about a load of crap. And so then it kind of begs to differ. Like you come to the United States like well, gun violence is a problem, but then you go to a state that has ultra conservative gun laws that you can't own them. And it's the complete opposite, because now you can't do anything to protect yourself and one crazy yay, who has a gun, the whole town is threatened, takes your daughter, rapes her and kills her. How many women were disappeared in Mexico? Do you remember? Too many, bro, I mean just waters alone, there was hundreds.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like disappearing from the maquiladoras, like taxi drivers. And then there was the serial killer we were talking about last night. You're talking like complete femicide. How many people have Oops? Hold on, let me take that back. Let me do it this way.
Speaker 1:What's the rough estimate of how many women disappeared in Mexico? Let's see. Oh, you know, I don't have it on the audio. Okay, so recent estimate indicates that over 100,000 people have disappeared in Mexico since records begin, with a significant portion being women. Data suggests around 25% of the cases involve women and girls, translating to roughly 25,000 or more female disappearances. Wow, the National Registry of Distinguished Persons reported over 111,000 total missing individuals by 2023, and advocates at Collegiate UNs have noted that a true number could be higher due to underreport. It's way more, way more. And you're talking at least 25,000 women that were specifically targeted because they were gorgeous. You know what I mean? Like there was a case. This guy was on Joe Rogan. He was interviewed by Joe Rogan and, man, it was intense to listen to him. Let me see, I have his video saved Is it.
Speaker 1:Ed Manifesto? No, ed Manifesto. I used to be on his groups where he would. What is the app called? I used to be on his telegram groups. I like the work he does, man. The pictures that was being put on his telegram groups out of Mexico during the violence of Mexico, holy crap, there was videos of people being skinned alive oh, like the pedophiles and stuff no, just regular ass people. That fucked up. Yeah, people cartel violence. Holy crap, there was videos of people being skinned alive.
Speaker 1:Oh, like the pedophiles and stuff. No, just regular ass. People that fucked up. Yeah, people. Cartel violence, people that didn't pay yeah, I mean there was a video of people being thrown off bridges. Like just, it was brutal, it was medieval over there, like guys that were just from one cartel be captured by another cartel and they'd have them line up against the wall. Cartel be captured by another cartel and they'd have them line up against the wall. These guys were just like we're going to die. They were just chill about it. They knew they were going to die. They weren't like let's get out of there, nothing, they were like you know, they'd go up to each person, blow their brains out, beat them up or whatever. And they have videos of all this and I remember like watching this, thinking like this is bloody, medieval and a lot of this is like an hour, two, three hours away from here, from the United States. Insane, insane, insane. So this guy here I'm trying to oh, here it is War is Drug Cartel Victim, marissa Escobar. Sad Story.
Speaker 1:This one was on Joe Rogan and I can't play it because you know the copywriting stuff. It is Joe Rogan and Johani Hari. He's an English. Like investigator he spent a lot of time down in Mexico or journalist. Johani Hari is a writer and journalist. His new book, lost Connections, is available now. So he was talking about a mom from Juarez that had like a 14-year-old daughter and they'd go to the market every day to sell stuff or something. And I'm going to try to paraphrase without butchering it, but they would go to Juarez to sell stuff and she's something about like they met this kid and this kid not a kid young man befriended them and she was like she was helping him out because he didn't have anything or whatever, and she was, gave him a place to stay, took care of him, that he'd help him in the market and whatever. And then, uh, um, she finds out that this young man that's significantly older than his daughter and I think his daughter was like 14 he's been having sexual relations with her, with her daughter. So she kicks him out. Well, it turns out he's from the local drug gang. So he kidnaps the daughter, takes her she's pregnant and the mom looks for her and she thinks she finds him and she tells the police. The police don't do anything. Then that guy disappears again. The daughter disappears.
Speaker 1:She gets the daughter, he goes back and takes her and kind of goes back and forth. She would always alert the police and the police wouldn't do anything about him. She said something to the extent of like they thought that the police was tipping them off, that we know where you're at and all that. And this is during like the heyday of the craziness. And then a long time goes that she didn't hear about her daughter and this random guy reaches out to the mom and tells the mom like hey, I know where your daughter is and I know about her whereabouts, but he didn't want to be seen talking to her in juarez. So she agrees to meet this random guy middle of the desert outside of town and like the water is desert out there, it's there, I think it's. It's a legit debtor. So she goes and he tells her your daughter's dead, here's where you can find her body. And they I don't remember if they went and they found the body or something, but he confirmed that she was dead and this guy has a kid and that's it, and so she takes, like the evidence to the police department and they didn't do anything about it.
Speaker 1:So she does this campaign, a single mom campaign, where she walked everywhere all over mexico and she was get start getting rallies together for people that wanted justice for their, for women, in mexico and uh, um, she had a huge following in mexico and I and I up once, but she would go talk at big events and all that and she was I don't recall if she was like in Chihuahua, the capital of the state of Chihuahua, or she was like in Mexico City, but she was like at a governor's office house or something and they had like a big rally there and, like I said, I might be butchering the details, but she was getting ready for a speech and there was like I don't want to say hundreds of thousands of people, but there was like tens of thousands of people, like a lot of people from all over Mexico that wanted like justice for their children that disappeared, against drug violence and all that stuff. And she got up on stage and was getting ready to talk at a, like you say, at a government location the government's office, governor's office, and all that. Some guy walks up to her while she's on stage, shoots her in the head. The person just leaves, that person's never apprehended and she's dead and that's like the end of her story. That's it. She's martyred now. She's martyred now.
Speaker 1:But in Mexico nothing happened. And and you think about like, nobody has guns to defend himself. Your average person that lives out there going to work and all that it's not like they have a gun to defend themselves. So if a random cartel wants to come take your kid or something, you can do anything to defend yourself. Your neighbor can't defend itself. And the government? I fully believe the government's in full cahoots. They're they're benefiting, unless unless, like uh el chapo, where you get too famous for your own good, then they give you up to the americans. Because that's the thing with el chapo they that they gave them up to the americans. They they did away from because he got too big for his britches. But the, the people on the government side, they're making money off of him. So they don't want to do anything for a long time.
Speaker 1:And I think it can be really argued that Mexico is nearly a failed state. The current president, socialist, communist woman I mean it's weird to hear people here in America say like, oh man, she talks great and she stood up to Trump. No, she didn't, matter of fact, she backed down. We were putting tariffs on her. They gave up a bunch of cartel guys and they're putting the army everywhere, and they're putting army on the border.
Speaker 1:Now Don't tell me that this woman came to the Americans and what she's doing is like a drop in the bucket as to what needs to be done in Mexico. She's only doing this because there's too many people that stand to lose money if we don't have open free trade. So the people on the top that want to continue to make money. They say, okay, let's give up so many cartel guys and let's do this to placate the Americans. But there's no real change in Mexico. There's no change. You might have a local governor do something for your state. You might have a local mayor try to do a lot for your city, but it ends there. There's no significant long-lasting change. And who knows how many people and how high up the ladder that's involved with the cartels? You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Even here the cartels could run all the way to the US. Oh yeah, I've always said this here in the United States At least there's enough good people willing to do something about it. You have enough district attorneys, you have enough police officers. You have enough people that believe in a system here that they're going to do something about it and it's going to get done at some point. You know they'll follow the law, they'll do what they have to, but they're going to get these people. It's like I don't know if down south they just give up, they don't care, or they get paid off, I don't know. They realize they have too much to risk and they don't want to lay it all on the line. I don't get it, but you know, it's just.
Speaker 1:Part of me thinks that Mexico is a pretty failed country. The Jalisco New Generation controls big chunks of the southern Mexico. It's not like Mexico controls it. They don't. The cartels control it. They've tried to go into Culiacan and they were able to get a couple of people out of there that they wanted, but it's such a war zone every time they go in there they never take control of the city.
Speaker 1:It's nuts. It's clear who's in power and it's been like that for at least 20 years, and I think Mexico's beautiful. I think Mexico's beautiful, I think the people are great, the culture's great, everything's great about it. But, man, you have a country where, after the revolution, people had to turn in their guns, and over the last about 100 years, because Revolution A ended around the same time, world War I ended, so when it ended, people had to turn their guns and all that you know to the government, and over the course of a hundred years, as society has spun out of control, people don't have the ability to take care of themselves, defend themselves. It's a crazy time all around, man from local to global.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, the global stuff. It's a crazy time all around, man. Yeah yeah, from local to global. I don't know man. Oh yeah, the global stuff. Everything Ukraine, russia, the Houthis, like it's just. It's an interesting time to be alive again, you know, mm-hmm? Yeah, I don't know, man, don't know. I remember thinking, oh, like over the weekend Cruises, wasn't this bad in the 90s? And then you reminded me of the Bowling Alley. The Bowling Alley was kind of like the equivalent to this, and I hope we don't have a sequel, because it seems like after things happen at the Bowling Alley. That's when the Wolf Pack came out, that's when more LCPD units got a little more active.
Speaker 1:I think the Wolfpack came out and I was really trying to think about this, because there was a lot of teenage drinking, god, a lot of partying, a lot of DUIs, parties at the rivers, days in Confusa, damn Poles, the cove, like everywhere, the clearing, like all these parties everywhere, and I think they were trying to get a grasp on drinking and driving and all that. And so the Wolfpack, the Sheriff's Office they had a bunch of officers on the weekends going around with their four-wheelers. Ecstasy exploded, oh yeah, x exploded. I remember being at parties and everybody smoking weed and I was still wet behind my wheels.
Speaker 1:I'd be like, oh my God, everybody's smoking weed behind my words and be like, oh my god, everybody's smoking weed they're smoking drugs they're smoking marijuana, like at these parties, like we're gonna get into so much trouble, we're gonna go to jail, but um, but it's weird though, like I don't know man, I don't know, like maybe maybe violence has always been there. It just comes and flows and waves. You know it's like the ocean, and I don't know who else telling this to, but it's like the ocean, you know, there's tide comes in and then it kind of goes down again and comes in, and so it comes and goes and flows and maybe we're seeing an uptick in it because there's a lot of uncertainty going on right now. Definitely a problem with the justice system. People get released, even for violent crimes, within a couple days look at what happened in californ California, for a good minute.
Speaker 1:I don't know if they're still doing this, but they weren't even like when there was like shoplifting, they weren't even going after. The people weren't prosecuting, weren't arresting them for like anything, anything. Yeah, you had to steal more than a thousand dollars, right, something like that and they weren't prosecuting. They weren. They weren't prosecuting, they weren't incarcerating. And it seemed like just recently they started to and people have been surprised by it. There was like a video of these girls that stole stuff from a store and then the police came and got them. They're like why are you arresting us? It's like you stole from a store and you're obvious about it. So I think a lot of local district DAs and whatnot are fed up. They want to do something about it. Again, there's good people that want to do something about it, they realize there's work to be done.
Speaker 1:They realize there's work to be done and there's always work to be done, but right now it's like the pile is really big and we've got to start from somewhere. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. You know, like after the riots, remember, in LA, things kind of chilled out after that, oh yeah, well, I mean it's funny because you said, like you know, you hope everybody kind of is good after, like the violence, like 9-11. When 9-11 happened, like everybody, patriotism, patriotism, but people overall were just a little bit nicer to each other. They really were for a period of time there. I remember just how life seemed like it just turned around overnight. You know, yeah, the LA riots and Rodney King, remember all that stuff. People went crazy and it's just nuts.
Speaker 1:There's a story about these Koreans in Koreatown. They armed themselves and essentially barricaded Koreatown. They armed themselves and essentially barricaded koreatown to prevent the mob from coming in and just burning the whole korea down to the ground. Yep, on the rooftops, right, but again, they're able to do so because in america you can have a gun and you can defend yourself. You wouldn to, but that's why that right's there. That's why that right's there For that specific scenario.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that specific reason and we do a disjustice by not teaching our kids about guns, because where are they learning from it? Social media, call of Duty movies, instagram. And it's funny because when you hear a kid talking about a gun, it's like what do you need that for? Well, this person and this person online have these guns. I'm like that's so stupid. You just made me realize that I mean, these are all teenagers that we're talking about. On Friday, there's video of when the shooting started, but we just haven't seen it. I'm sure there is there's video of the shooting. It's stupid because it's like Maybe this is a sign of the times, that there's kids that have grown up with social media now Full on, since they're kids now, not like you and me. We didn't grow up with social media for the first umpteen years of our life, right, or MySpace, and even then you couldn't really upload something from your phone to MySpace. Initially, right, one had flip phones and razors and blueberries.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 3:Blueberries.
Speaker 1:The razor. What was the black one? The flip phone. I remember the V90.
Speaker 2:Sidekick.
Speaker 1:No, there was a sidekick, the V90, which is like a little flip phone from Motorola. It's like titanium cover. It was really pretty. And then the black one oh man, it was a really good phone. I really liked it. It was like legit, it was like a black flip phone. But yeah, these people like we didn't grow up with it, but kids grow up with like social media now, and so they're shooting, popping off and people are randomly shooting with assault rifles and, like I say, even if you had a handgun, you could still shoot fast. Bam bam bam. You know just as fast as you could shoot. Bam bam, bam bam. You go through nine, ten rounds, drop the click Again. Less than a minute you have another clip. Bam bam, bam, bam bam. You know what I mean. So between those four knuckleheads they're saying so you know how Young Park is. You've been there.
Speaker 1:So you have the parking lot. There are showcases that go from the parking lot towards the center of the park by the bathrooms and then down towards that hill and the streets. It went all the way to the streets.
Speaker 2:People were running around shooting at each other.
Speaker 1:Yep, they were chasing people. That's so crazy. But you had kids on their phone while the shootings. Going around that are concerned about taking videos. It's like, hey, you know there's. You know stray bullets is a thing You're. They're not aiming for you, but Dude it looks like one kid's like phoned behind him and running, like, yeah, just like getting footage and running and there's people behind like it's crazy. It's like run for your life and hide. But that might be the evidence that got these four kids apprehended.
Speaker 2:But you're right, it might be the evidence that got these four kids apprehended.
Speaker 1:But you're right, it might be the evidence. Yeah, and I don't know, like I haven't looked into it or anything like this. But how many of those videos are like on social media now? Or how many were initially on like Facebook, instagram, tiktok, and then, once they started investigating, people were like, okay, let's take these videos off. But for like, I wonder. But I bet there's like a window of time that all those videos were just uploaded. Everybody's checking it out. Then, like as soon as police start investigating, people are like we got to get rid of these videos For like 8 to 12 hours, something like that. So if you got a video of the shooting and you put it online because you're like, dude, I was here it online because you're like, dude, I was here. It's crazy. Like people are shooting me everybody and then you find out police are investigating, you're like, okay, I'm gonna go ahead and delete this video.
Speaker 2:Are you obstructing? No?
Speaker 1:there's no obstruction of justice investigation. No, uh, especially if, like, all right, so like, let's say, you're a parent and you, your kid, uploaded it and you're like hey, you were there first off, and and then all that deal who knows how each parents can deal with it.
Speaker 1:I'm sure if there was a kid who posted it and the parent found out, yeah, they told him to take that down. We need to show that to the cops. Yeah, yeah, especially now that there are people who are dead and everybody was talking about Saturday morning. Yeah, that's too bad for raising kids to be knuckleheads. We made national news because of that. What a horrible thing to make national news about. You know, like we need the whole enchilada.
Speaker 2:Jeez.
Speaker 1:Okay. So there was this festival here called the Whole Enchilada, this local tortilla owner. He would make a big enchilada, the world's largest enchilada. They'd cook it in there and cut it and you'd eat it.
Speaker 1:But I remember I was a kid going to this thing and it was like the downtown and food stands galore, like there's never anything to do, like, didn't selena play it one year? Selena played one year? Yeah, exactly right. Then they even had like a little area like a beer tent. The tigris went there one year. People would sell crafts and all that and uh pogs, yeah, yeah, exactly right. And uh, but I, I remember being there at 9, 10 o'clock at night and knuckleheads would start fighting. Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 1:But it's not like guys were pulling guns up. Local gang fights back then were fights and they'd fight each other and the cops would come and break them up and arrest somebody, but it was just straight up throwing down. Nobody was pulling guns back then. I don't know if they pulled knives or not back then. It's probably somebody didn't, but but it was. It was just different, like you know, maybe. Maybe life was different when we were kids. I don't know it was. I'd say it was. It's kind of like that cliche that you say oh, the old people are like oh, these young kids it's like no, it kind of happens through time.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, uh, you like you look at ancient history and a lot of the the old writers they would, they would write about. All these kids are so different. Now you're talking like a thousand years ago.
Speaker 1:They're still back then yeah, they're saying these kids and I there was one specific case I used to remember that a historian was talking about like how this historian, you know that's writing about everything going on during the time of a of Alexander they're saying these kids, you're like two, three thousand years ago. But I always wonder when is, like, the future going to start? Because I was watching the clip from Demolition man today. You know Demolition man with Wesley Snipes, and so they're fighting in the museum and Wesley Snipes is trying to get some guns and he goes wait a second, this is the future. Where's the future guns? And he gets that one gun that makes a big ol' explosion. You know he goes that's what I'm talking about. I was like are we in the future now? Can't like I'm not talking about us having lasers, but can I own a gun now that has my biometrics to it? So if you got it you couldn't shoot it. Are we there yet? Is technology?
Speaker 2:there, yet Like a fingerprint gun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would hope so. Have you not looked that up? I don't know. I would assume that our technology is there now. Yeah, maybe it's not. Maybe it's still in the future. I don't know, I would assume that our technology is there now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe it's not, maybe it's still in the future. I bet the government guys have it, the men in black have it, but they wouldn't want it though, because if they were the men in black, then they would want to be able to shoot crazy alien comes down from the sky, right, mm-hmm? Let's ask Grok, hey Ara, are there futuristic guns that exist that are only registered to your biometric marker or fingerprint, that won't let anybody else shoot it?
Speaker 3:Oh, you mean like something straight out of a sci-fi movie? I don't have the latest scoop since I'm not hooked up to real-time info, but as far as I know, there have been ideas floating around about smart guns with biometric locks, like fingerprint scanners or grip recognition, so only the owner can fire them. I think some prototypes have been tinkered with, but I couldn't tell you if they're out in the world yet or just still in the lab. What do you think about that kind of tech? Cool or creepy?
Speaker 1:Huh, okay. Well, I mean, there you go. Her information's updated up to last year, do you remember? I don't remember the what Well, like cause it. Yeah, let's ask.
Speaker 3:Hey, aura how current is your information? Hey there, it's Aura, not Aura. My info's fresh up to december 2024, but I can't peek at anything happening right now, since it's evening and I don't have real-time access. What's on your mind tonight?
Speaker 1:no, no, that's all we wanted to know, thank you glad I could help.
Speaker 3:If you need anything else this evening, just let me know.
Speaker 1:Take care it's so funny that you can just like hey, let's ask this person from the internet Did you name her? No, that's a name that came with it already. They didn't give you a name option because I know I would have given her like something cute, you know, like something that we can pronounce.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, not mess it up.
Speaker 1:Every time I try to say Aura, she says no, it's not Aura, like I don't think I said Aura, like I don't think I said aura. So anyway, that's what's going on down in these neck of the woods. And you know I will say this we still live in a great state, great town. There's good people and people shouldn't let this be like a blight on what goes on here. You know even El Paso, texas, great town. You know good people out there, mix of cultures. Just it's a great area to be in. You know, yeah, I just it'll always be home. Don't let this one random act of violence make you think it's lawless out here. The wild west out here, because it's not, doesn't ruin Chicago. Chicago's got a great reputation and Lord knows how much violence goes on there Every weekend.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, Stuff like this happens.
Speaker 1:The South Side, right yeah yeah, that's crazy. So, no, it's not like that here. It's a good place, but I already think. I just have a lot of hope and faith in humanity.
Speaker 1:I'm just like hoping the parents get a little more scared and the parents who are a little more passive get, you know, start probing their kids' lives a little more. You know what I? Okay, so there's two things. Like, I say, the Department of Education there's really good school districts out there, so let's be curious to see, like, what school districts around the country do now that they have more freedom to uh, um, to to customize their education in their community, in their state, right, so that that's going to be interesting. That could be a really good thing. You could, you could tentatively see some states really go in different directions that have really good programs, you know. But I've always wished and I've thought about this a lot but I wish there was a lot more legislation on social media with kids, kids specifically, and yeah, you could go on there and you can lie you can lie about your age or whatever but I just wish there was some sort of way to legislate this and and be like. You know, parents, or more parents, are like right, you're not going to be on social media after six o'clock and no, you're not going to have an instagram account and no, you're not going to this. You know what I mean. Like it's I. I wish there was more legislation on that.
Speaker 1:And people say, well, what rights do kids have? Well, they're kids, right, kids never historically I don't know how to word this I don't want to say they didn't have rights. But kids' rights are different than adults' rights, like now during the progressive era with Teddy Roosevelt and all that stuff. There's like rights passed that kids shouldn't work. You know, child labor should be illegal so that kids can be kids. But kids do have certain rights in the sense of that. They should be safe, they should have food, they should have a roof, they shouldn't be beaten, they should be taken care of and loved and they should have a right to an education. They should go to the education. Loved and they should have a right to an education. They should go to the education Like.
Speaker 1:Kids have this, this unalienable right that they are allowed to be children and they should be given the best opportunity to succeed, succeed as an adult. There's no underline right there that supersedes anything else. You know what I mean. Like, like the reason we call children children is because their capacity to make a good decision is not the same as an adult. Right, you know, kids have a very instant gratification, emotional reaction to decisions Like oh, I like this, I like this dessert, it's my favorite thing to eat. I'm only going to eat cake, you know, for breakfast, lunch and dinner. You know what I mean, because it tastes good. Now, that's not going to be good for them, it's not healthy for them, but you know, and and that's okay.
Speaker 1:They're children like I say, that's a more sensitive area now that we know that development doesn't stop until 25. Oh yeah, we haven't known that for like 20 years. Oh, absolutely Right. And yeah, I mean us guys we're idiots till our late 20s. But in a sense of like children, like children should be protected, and I think this protection needs to include against the evils of social media, people that pray on them online and all that it's got to. Then again, there's probably some suit.
Speaker 1:Who's making that money? Just like with the cartel, oh yeah, they're making money off the kids, you know like. You know kids see something on instagram like hey, mom, can I order this with my phone? Yeah, yeah, go ahead. They're making gobs of money off of who knows what, but hacked, oh yeah. Well, what about like the little girls that grow up with like issues with their bodies because they don't think they're as beautiful, they don't think they're as developed, they don't think they're as popular? Dude, when we're in high school, girls are worrying about glamour and cosmopolitan make them feel like crap now it's in their pockets now it's in their pockets.
Speaker 1:Now it's in their pockets, yeah, and now it's real time. And now you can have a group of idiots leaving comments on a girl's picture, like coming up on them, and they internalize that a lot more. Like just like a year ago. A year, year and a half ago, a colleague of mine her daughter was like best friends with some young lady in high school, like a freshman, like a freshman, I believe. And her friend said like they found the dad, found his daughter hanging from the ceiling fan in her bedroom. What? And there was now the family situation wasn't the best. The parents were separated, the mom would stay with the boyfriend in Mexico and the dad was always there, very abusive with the daughter and all that stuff. But then the daughter started getting bullied from other girls in school, yep, on social media. And so it got to the tipping point where this young girl like what, when you're a freshman in high school, what are you 15?, 14, 15. Decides to take her own life. What the hell? Man Became unbearable and she had no support, no family support, but the fact that again there's no protection from her on social media because it's all open, like you could be, that again. There's no protection from her on social media because it's all open, like you could be 14, 15, putting a picture on and people are going to make fun of you because you're a little girl and you're going to take it personal. Yeah, there needs to be an age limit.
Speaker 1:I think so, man, like I don't know my niece when she was really young, she would go on Instagram Live and I'd see her. So I'd go on there and I'd be like hey, so-and-so, and she goes hey, uncle Mark. I'd be like hey, and I started watching the interactions on her Live and I started watching the comments guys were putting on and there was one particular something some dude left like a comment for her or something. So I started, um, going to that profile, like who in the hell is this? Like some older dude leaving a comment to my little nieces live. Like who is this dude? And I messaged my brother said, hey, uh, who's? You know your daughter's going on live and you have these guys that are interacting with them. Some of them are like real creepers that are older or whatever. Blah, blah, like. So he deleted her profile.
Speaker 1:Oh, damn the whole thing. Yeah, how old is she? At the time she was God, maybe like 14, 15. Yeah, that's valid. Yeah, so, yeah, yeah, so yeah. Good for my brother for taking that step and going all out, because I mean, I don't know, man, like it's a real thing, it's real, they're too exposed. They're too exposed, you know. So, anyways, that's what's going on, that's what's going on in the world and that's what happened in Cruces, and still a great place, but it's unfortunate. A lot of work that needs to be done, a lot of work that needs to be done.
Speaker 1:I'd hate to be a legislator like a city council person right now. Well, and here's the thing, you can't be overreactionary, because you can't make a sweeping decision right now and be like, okay, that happened, I'm going to do this, and it applies to everybody. You can't do that. You have to wait and see how things play out and all the influences. Then, if you don't do anything, then people call you out for not doing anything. But at the same time, it's like if we pass these laws, then good citizens are going to suffer from it, because a couple knuckleheads went crazy over the weekend. I'm sure there'll be cops there on Friday, though. Yeah, went crazy over the weekend, I'm sure there'll be cops there on Friday though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, these unsanctioned shows, they're done. They're done.
Speaker 1:It's stupid, they'll probably move it over to like Toshiro by Mayfield, and even then we'll find the new spot. I heard that the airport was a good spot for that too. I used to go with a buddy of ours and we'd go out. He would take his Tesla to go race and there'd be kids out there, like these way outside of town in the manufacturing area, and the kids would go out there to go race and he would race with his car because it was kind of cool. But it was funny because there were like a bunch of young kids. They'd all come in their vehicles and I remember thinking, like these are young teenagers. Where'd you get the money, bro? Yeah, it's like so did you do that with your I mean your parents just give you a grand, a drop on this and that? And like or did your parent buy you a mustang? That's a roush or it's souped up with a supercharger? Like jesus christ, in our day, our parents would. But they'd find a $200 car, like right, here's your keys, here's your first car, some of us and it was like blow black, smoke and the window didn't roll down and all that. Yeah, I mean I remember getting. But yeah, I had a Dodge Shadow. That was my first car. But there were those kids in high school who had a Mustang, or it's like there was a kid who had a Corvette and I'm not a parent so I can't, I'm not the expert. But it's like do you buy your kid, you know that brand new car off the lot because you think it's a safe vehicle and it's like the newest sports model? Or do you kind of be like, hey, this is what we had when we were kids. We didn't get the best car, but we got a car.
Speaker 1:If I had a daughter, I'd want her to drive a muscle car. Get her a Chevelle. Oh, I want her to drive a muscle car. Get her a Chevelle. Oh, geez, you'd have all sorts of boy problems. Everybody would want to date her because it's a girl and then she has a muscle car. Nah, she'll know jiu-jitsu, she'll be fine. Dude, I'm going to get my daughter a freaking moped with a retarded helmet. I'm not going to take that to school. It's like all right, you're going to walk then Good luck. You know, like I don't know, man, it's just such a weird world anymore.
Speaker 1:I don't know I don't know if I'd have kids now. I don't know if I want kids either. Man, Like it's just so weird, Like I've always wanted kids, but I don't know about now. Dude, I just have to level out and that, like you think about the people that you're with now like your partner and like, geez, I can barely stand anybody in my life, much less to keep them around. The mother of a child yeah, I can definitely relate to that.
Speaker 1:And I was all thinking about this Like, okay, I'm going to get with somebody. They're going to have a kid. That person's going to end up hating me. Then they're going to teach the kid to hate me. So now, I'm not just going to have that. You know wife slash, ex-wife hating me, but now I'm going to have the kids are going to hate me too, because you know dad's a big a-hole. Yeah, I got it. No, you know what I mean. Like I don't want to have to deal with any of that. Dude, what the hell? I think I might have a kid but not get married. You know what? Man, I never thought I would say this, but god bless it. That makes a hell of a lot of sense. Yeah, you're already married by blood for 18 years. Yeah, they go off to college.
Speaker 1:you do their thing dude I, uh, like it's, I don't know. It's just such a weird world anymore I can't do it, I'm done. I'm done, I can't. You gotta see 2030. I'm gonna run to like hawaii, live on, be a beach bum rest of my life. That's, I'm done.
Speaker 1:What do you think 2030 will be like? We're here, I don't know. I don't know. So, okay, so there's a perspective of me thinking nothing's going to change. It's going to still be the same. You know, iphones will get better. There might be a new technology that might be awesome, a new social media that might be awesome. That'll come out. Okay, work will still be work. You still have to go to work and hopefully things aren't overly expensive so you can not putting all your money into your bills and your food. I don't know, I don't think it'll be much different than now.
Speaker 1:Um, then I read, you know I read stuff, and there's these videos I've been getting into about like the messiah, the coming of the messiah. There's people that feel like the second coming is going to be in 2030. That's interesting. And then there's this whole thing about like, uh, um, what's going on the world between now and 2030? Like, will china be in a war with tai to take Taiwan, will Russia be doing their next invasion? Like I mean, like you know what I mean, like I don't know more, more the same, but crazier, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I think at the very least, at the very least it's safe to say things won't change too much. You and me will be a couple years older, people we know will be a couple years older, People we know will be a couple years older, and maybe we're in a better position ourselves. You know what I mean, but I don't think it's going to change a whole lot. We'll see. We'll see. I mean, that's only. I mean, it's only five years away, dude, that's like nothing. Now We'll already be talking about elections in 2027, I'll probably have, like, I'll probably have another hip, the t100, I know right, like again, where's the future? Like back to the future, flying cars, and like, hey, you know my uh, can I just get? Take my whole leg off. You give me a whole electronic leg. And like the winter soldier, you know, like he has that one arm, that's all metal, that's all like jack take one of those for sure it's like, yeah, I mean, can we do that now?
Speaker 1:Is that a thing Like we're getting closer? I'm sure we're getting closer to that every day. I'm sure we're getting closer. But I mean, the, the, the, the Donald Trump, just amazing. Like that's going to be interesting, that'll be cool. I mean, hopefully, I don't know, I just don't know. I hope that there's not like a major war or something like more than there already is. I don't know, it seems to be heading that direction. I hope not, because, um, every war in history, it was always the biggest war until the next one, like uh, um, um, I you have to look at the timeline of wars to put it in the context, like you know, do you Until the next one? Like, you have to look at the timeline of wars To put it in the context, like you know. Do you think Korea was bigger than World War 2? No, I don't know. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, because, and World War 2.
Speaker 1:With the Russian front, You're, they're, the numbers go anywhere from like 80 million to over 100 million people dead, like the Germans were just killing everybody, and then the way the Soviets were just throwing bodies into the war, like it's like Ukraine, but bigger, like in Ukraine. They were just throwing everybody in there. They were getting mowed down by the Ukrainians like. The Soviets were just like just go. People were like the life expectancy is like what a couple days. Everybody in there, they're getting mowed down by the Ukrainians. The Soviets were just like just go. People were like the life expectancy is like what a couple days. If you're Russian and they threw you out there, it's like nuts. Well, that's World War II. It was the same thing. Your life expectancy was very minimal because they were just throwing bodies at the Germans, just so the Germans wouldn't take over. So a lot of guys died that way. The Germans killed everybody. Germans at the time during World War II viewed like Russians and people from that part of the world. They viewed them as nothing, garbage.
Speaker 1:Right, they were a lot of gypsies, jews, slavics, just like they did with the Jews right, russians were the same way. So Korea was that big? No, but then the Chinese entered and Chinese just threw bodies at the Americans and we pushed them back. And you know, you talk to soldiers, talking about the waves of Chinese just running down the hills like ants on the hills, and they were just mowing them down.
Speaker 2:Who knows how many Chinese died.
Speaker 1:Chinese were fighting in the US. Yeah, in world war ii, no, no. In korea, oh in korea, yeah. So they flipped on us after we saved them from japan.
Speaker 1:So so after so the chinese civil war is going on. Then, um, the chinese civil war kind of like they kind of did like pause game off. Japan just took a state in China. Now they invaded. So we have to fight the Japanese. And the Russians weren't fighting the Japanese, I don't think yet. No, they weren't, because had the Japanese fought the Russians from the East, russia would have fell. So we didn't want the Japanese to fight Russia because we needed Russia to fight the Germans.
Speaker 1:So the Chinese they had their civil war. They put on pause. After the war ended they kind of went back at it again. But the nationalists, they fled Taiwanese and the communists stayed there. Then they had the. They were going through the whole cultural revolution where they felt like they were backwards. They were agrarian, they started making these megacities and thousands of people starved, and I shouldn't say thousands, millions. They all think more people died in China than died in Russia. So you're talking about millions, millions of people just died. And so Chinese became their version of communism, which is different than the Soviet version of communism. So for a while there the Chinese and the Soviets didn't really work together in terms of communism because they had different ideas of what communism should be.
Speaker 1:And then Korea was a buffer state against the south or against the like western culture, because it was divided from the World War II. And Korea was a buffer state against the South or against the Western culture because it was divided from World War II and kind of like Germany was divided. Well, korea was divided the same way. And so the North was Korean and the UN because it was more of a UN action, more than it was like the United States, it was like the UN was there and they had all but just defeated the Koreans all the way to the river I don't remember the name of the river, but the river that divides Korea and China. And that's when Chinese just throwing soldiers in to help the Koreans and so thousands and thousands of Chinese just came in and just overran everyone, americans, un, everybody was being overran. Then they reorganized and they pushed back.
Speaker 1:And that's when MacArthur had his famous disagreement with Truman. Because, macarthur, you know people have different opinions of MacArthur, but MacArthur was still like the great general in the Pacific or the head honcho in the Pacific and he was overseeing the Korean action and he had made the comment that we should just go ahead and start bombing China, nuking them. Just drop a couple of nukes on China and they're going to stop fighting us in Korea. And it pissed Truman off. Was it Truman or was it already like? I don't remember if it was Truman or if it was like a Eisenhower, but it pissed off.
Speaker 1:The current president asked for MacArthur, or recalled MacArthur back to the States. They forced him to resign, gave his famous speech, just an old soldier fading away. And then the new general, um, took control of, uh, korea and they pushed the chinese back. And yeah, interesting, yeah, but like uh. So who knows how many chinese were lost in korea, but I don't think it was anything like world war ii size at all. I mean, it could have, it could have been really big, but yeah, nuts Wild time.
Speaker 1:Wow, it's so crazy how our views on how your country should run, or your views on religion, or just your general view of this people from this part of the world, we see them differently. So we see that we see them either as ignorant or lesser or whatever, because, because they have a certain government, or because they have a certain religion, or because they're just a certain people. Right, and we'll just go to war just to go annihilate them. Like, not us, like United States, but just humanity as a whole, we'll just go to war for it. You know, ukraine was a big part of Russia for a long time and Russia viewed Ukraine as part of the Russian Empire. So, like Putin's trying to reclaim the old Russian Empire, which it's like, people just want to be free. They just, you know, excuse, you can't blame for ukraine for wanting to be a part of europe. They, you know. You see what happened with germany once germany reunified, it's become a powerhouse, manufacturing, people's got money, they've got wealth, or east germans are no longer starving like they used to be behind the berlin wall. So, yeah, I don't blame. Blame for Ukraine wanting to develop industry and agriculture, join Europe and trade and make money for their people and for their families and be successful. I just don't blame them. They should have every right to do so, you know.
Speaker 1:And then you have Russia comes in and they take over these four oblasts, these four regions, the Donbass being one of them, and when the Russian army gets in there, they hold referendums. Right, we're going to vote you want to be Russian or you want to be independent. So they gave them two options, and this was on Peter Zane, I think he was talking about it. He says the Russians, when they took over these four regions in Ukraine, they did these referendums to let people vote what do you want to do? And on the ballot there was only two options do you want to be Russian or do you want to be independent? They didn't say do you want to be Ukraine? You know it was only Russian or independent. And he said and these results came back like 99% that they want to be Russian. He's like how incredible is that? And I think I hope he'll be sarcastic about that, because it's like well, yeah, if you have the Russian army in your town telling you that you have to vote this way, of course it's going to be 99% in your favor. Yep, you know, that's how.
Speaker 1:Putin's still in power. How many people have they suicided off buildings? Still? You know that one Russian general that was. How many people have they suicided off buildings? Still? You know that one Russian general that was the control of the special forces His jet gets blown out of the sky mysteriously, whatever his name was.
Speaker 1:I was like I don't know why. Can't you just let these people just do what they want. You know, I don't know, don't know. It's weird, right, it's weird because we grew up here in the united states. We have different issues we deal with, but we're not dealing with like a country taking over our state saying like, no, you're gonna be a part of us, I don't care if you want it or not.
Speaker 1:Imagine that You're going to tell me like, say, it was Mexico. You're going to tell me I'm going to be a part of Mexico. Screw you, I'm not going to give you my guns, screw you. You can't even control your own territory. You're telling me I can't be American because I have this argument with Mexicans, some people I know from Mexico, and I said you guys don't know what freedom is, sorry. I mean you go to the store, you go to work, you buy your beans and your rice, you get what you need, but I mean mass protests. You guys have put down Anything you say against the government. You're arrested. There's no real true freedom of speech. Like you live day to day, going to work and taking care of your family, but your freedoms kind of end there at that. I don't know. Kind of a weird way to think, I guess.
Speaker 1:But I mean kind of. It's just unfortunately having to look at that perspective, what it's been like. And if you want to do it like I'm saying, another comparison with Mexico Mexico still has a very a class system. It's a democracy, but they have a class system. So, very much so, it's a democracy, but they have a class system. So the deal is is like your kids do not have the opportunity to be much more than you are.
Speaker 1:As a parent, like here in the United States, we always want our kids to be more successful. Yeah, and they have the capability. Go to school, get a good job, make a lot of money, and you have the chance of being more than your parent was being more successful Over there. If you don't have the name, if you didn't come from the right family, if you don't know the right connections, you're not going to become more than what your class is already. It's already predetermined for you. You'll get your car, you'll get your house, you'll have your family, and maybe that's enough for some people. Maybe they're happy with that. Yeah, I don't know, weird. It's just weird because, like I say, we're, we live here. Yeah, we have no idea, we don't. We're people here, don't we? Don't we take for granted how blessed we are. We really we really are, you know, and it's imperfect, but it's still more opportunity than we may have somewhere else.
Speaker 1:Yep, anywhere else, anywhere else, I mean you can come to the United States not knowing English and you still have the chance to make something of yourself. Yeah, if you're willing to put in the work, it's a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful thing. Willing to put in the work, it's a beautiful thing, it's a beautiful thing, and so so, yeah, so I get, when I, when I hear politics that are very extreme, people's impressions of the other side, when it's very extreme, it's, it's annoying, it's like just wait and see.
Speaker 1:Things never have really gone that south. In the 70s, huge protests and and rightly so civil rights, civil rights for all americans, 100, rightly so. But things have always leveled out and they've always worked out. Here. You know, you go from jimmy carter to nixon and you know, I mean I don't know who the crazy, craziest person was since then. I mean, then you have, like ronald, ronald Reagan, that came in during the Russians, and then you kind of swing the other way to Obama.
Speaker 1:The politics always swings back and forth, but things always, in the long run, kind of works out. And so either you're really for what's going on right now or you're really against it. For what's going on right now, or you're really against it but there's no need to go do violence, do crazy, because it's going to work out in the long run. It really does work out. In America there's enough people that want this to work and do the right thing that it's going to work out, you know. So, I don't know, that's kind of the way I look at it and again, like with the local issue, I have a lot of hope. I don't know, that's kind of the way I look at it. Yeah, man, again, like with the Local issue, I just have a lot of hope and faith and humanity and hope that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, things need to level out.
Speaker 1:Things are crazy All around. Parents will get more. Hopefully it forces Parents to Open their eyes and get involved With their kids. Take an interest In their kids lives. Yeah, that's what the kids need. Take an interest. See what they're doing.
Speaker 1:They don't have the attention they're on social media. Doing what? Sorry, get rid of your social media, son. That's the way it is. I don't want to. It's tough. Lose your social media or your phone yeah, what do you want to do? Maybe you need to. Maybe you need to lose your phone too. Maybe you need to lose your phone too. You don't need to be a 13 year old with a cell phone. Sorry, you know. Anyways, that's my rant. It's a good rant, my friend. Thank you. Thank you if you made it this far with us tonight and you heard the local news about the mass shooting in Cruces. It's unfortunate, but it's still a good place. It's still a good place. It's still a good place. It'll always be home Right on Well, thank you. Thank you for joining us and thank you, mr Artie, and again, thank you for dropping some knowledge on us when we need it Absolutely man, have a good night.
Speaker 1:Dude yeah, wow.