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The Mark & Jeanette Show: Ep 44 Unplugged: The Surprising Connections of Our Lives
In this thought-provoking episode, we navigate through thought-provoking discussions surrounding identity, technology, and history. We start by exploring the fascinating world of eyeglasses, examining how they influence our perception of ourselves and how others see us. This leads us to reflect on significant historical events, notably the mass suicide at the Fort of Pelliné, and how these remnants of the past inform our present perceptions and choices.
From there, we dive deep into conspiracy theories surrounding JFK's assassination, encouraging listeners to engage with the stories that have shaped our political landscape. The conversation shifts towards the implications of advancements in technology and artificial intelligence. With CERN and simulation theories in the mix, we ponder the nature of reality itself. Are we living in a simulation? What does that mean for our existence?
Finally, we bring the discussion closer to home, exploring cultural differences expressed through food choices and their relevance in understanding identity. Each segment offers insight, humor, and encourages introspection, reminding us that every day is a blessing—a moment to reflect on existence, purpose, and connection. Join us as we unravel these intricate narratives and expand our understanding of the world around us.
One, two, three, four. If it's just Francis Boyle, maybe he's not a doctor, but he works there in the ag department in the state and I always wanted to copy his book and he always said, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll print it Self-published. He goes come by and I'll print you one. And we never connected and so I just had a wild hair.
Speaker 1:A wild hair. I got on Amazon, I looked it up and there was, like you know, Amazon has like resellers that sell from there. So I found a copy of his book and I just got like a week ago and it was like an autographed copy and I was like dude, like that's.
Speaker 1:That's so weird because you could actually you know him, you've met him personally, so like my plan is to read his book and then, once I read it, to be like, try to reach out to him and be like I got like five. Maybe I'm up to six viewers now Would you come on.
Speaker 2:Hey come in and talk about it. Is it as big as that book?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's about as big as this book.
Speaker 2:What happened on the 23rd?
Speaker 1:That's right. No, no, no, let's look at Tuesday. So what's Tuesday's date? We're going to Martes, we're going to. This is going to come out like a. We're going to record this a day in advance. So the 25th.
Speaker 2:The 25th.
Speaker 1:You know, have you always worn glasses your whole life?
Speaker 2:I use them for like reading your whole life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I've never worn glasses. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And so, and then blue light have you heard of that? Yeah, so I got the blue tint on them, so I have a weird relationship with glasses. As a kid I always wanted glasses because I thought people that wore glasses were just so smart if you have an interview, wear glasses yeah, right, are you serious?
Speaker 2:if you have an interview, wear glasses. I was like all right, it worked one time. I wonder if color or anything like that.
Speaker 1:It worked out right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it worked out One time.
Speaker 1:My whole life never wore glasses and then I spent my life in front of a computer for the last 20, 25 years, and now that I have glasses, it's like I need to wear glasses. It's like a drag. Now it's like dang it. I can't read. Where are my glasses at?
Speaker 2:When you were young, you wanted to look cool, and now you're ready Talk about like a self-fulfilling prophecy, though Like my whole life.
Speaker 1:Like man, I want glasses, and then, now that I Ah drag.
Speaker 2:You know you lose them sometimes you have to find them Something more to carry.
Speaker 1:And you know there's something sexy about chicks that wear glasses.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh dude, you see some of these like librarian nerdy chicks and all that stuff. It's like oh girl, girl, everybody loves a nerd. Slash gamer, slash.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, Girls with glasses are definitely a search, okay.
Speaker 1:February 25th. Oh wow, 1336. That's like 700 years ago, almost exactly. That's like 600 and like 90. 700 years ago, you round it up to 700. That's nuts, okay. So in 1336, the defenders of Pelliné chose death over surrender. The fort was the site of the last stand of the pagan general duchy of Lithuania against a crusade by the Teutonic Knights who were attempting to convert him and his people to Catholicism. When it became clear the fort would fall, all 4,000 people within committed mass suicide rather than being taken prisoner.
Speaker 2:And turned into Catholics.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Well, it seems like when you read history, it seems like there's so much about religion. Oh, yeah, yeah, like it's crazy, and crazy too. Like kill everybody, that's not our religion. 10,000 people, they're all gone. Like how nuts is that? So there it is. 700 years ago, that was in Lithuania, okay, in 1848, the Paris Commune guarantees workers' rights.
Speaker 1:All right, you know the short-lived revolutionary socialist government was the first in the modern history formally recognized the rights of laborers. All right, 1848. Yeah, because Teddy Roosevelt was big on labor. But that was like around the turn of the century. Let's see here 1866, the Calavera skull is discovered.
Speaker 2:Is that like in the US?
Speaker 1:Yeah, the miners working in California, found the skull in mine the skull in mine skull in mine, 130 feet below the surface and passed it on to John Whitney, a professor of geology at Harvard University. Whitney declared the skull was proof that human mastodons and elephants had co-existed in California. The skull was later shown to be a hoax Calavera skull. I have to look that up. It's the boom man. 1901, us Steel is incorporated. What US Steel, carnegie Steel, like you know the big fathers of it's the boom man 1901, US Steel is incorporated.
Speaker 1:What US Steel, carnegie Steel, the big fathers of industry of the time. Carnegie 1928, the first television broadcast license is issued. The Federal Commission of Communication granted a broadcast license for television to Charles Jenkins.
Speaker 2:Laboratories 19 year was that 1928. Interesting, interesting.
Speaker 1:Let's see here, okay, 1956. Khrushchev. So Khrushchev, he was the dictator of Russia when Stalin died and he was the one that was in office, or he was a dictator of Russia during the Cuban Missile Crisis, that's a big boots.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a big man, right, that's a big boots to fill right there.
Speaker 1:In a speech to the 20th Congress of the Communist Party the USSR, nikita Khrushchev denounced a cult of personality that Stalin had created, as well as purges he had carried out. So Khrushchev survived the purges of Stalin. How I don't know. So just a little history. Khrushchev was a general in World War II. So when the Germans were fighting for Stalingrad and Soviet soldiers were just being thrown into the meat grinder kind of like Ukraine now, but in Stalingrad they weren't having any luck so they put Khrushchev in charge. So K it's installed. They weren't having any luck, so they put Khrushchev in charge.
Speaker 2:So Khrushchev man, that's awesome.
Speaker 1:Serious fighting. Yeah man, world War II, world War II right, but then again, you've ever heard about Kennedy in World War II?
Speaker 2:I think I heard he was a captain.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, JFK. He was a captain of a PT boat, so a little PT boat that had torpedoes, and so they were ordered to attack a Japanese ship, and it was like three or four PT boats or something like that because they had torpedoes on them and they all went down. So he saved the guys on his ship and he took them to an island and they stayed there until they were rescued.
Speaker 2:Real men right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, real men.
Speaker 2:Real men stuff.
Speaker 1:Back when, like the president, like look at Eisenhower, you know D-Day leader, He'd be the president and all that.
Speaker 2:Real men.
Speaker 1:Okay, here we go. Modern history 1964. Muhammad Ali shocks the world. Cassius Clay at the time won a bout against Sonny Liston with a technical knockout in the seventh round. Very nice.
Speaker 2:Wow, I have the El Paso gloves. Oh look at that my brother fought and I was like, oh, that's a cool shirt, I'm going to buy it.
Speaker 1:Goalie gloves. That's legit man. Let's see. 1996, Fernand Marcos flees the Philippines Okay. 1991, the Warsaw Pact is dissolved. Okay, the Warsaw Pact, you know what that is. I've heard about it, but you know how NATO, all the Western nations, that we have an alliance.
Speaker 2:United Nations.
Speaker 1:Well, no, no, nato is not the United Nations, it's just a military alliance of the Western nations. Okay, in Australia it's like a military alliance. It's called the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and all the major ones like England, us, france, germany, and then now Israel, now Israel. I don't think Israel is a part. Are they? I don't know. I'd have to look that up. But then on top, oh shoot, I thought it was the United Nations.
Speaker 1:Okay, I thought I stopped recording for a second. I was like no, the menu came down. No, no. So you have the United Nations, which is for, like, all the nations of the world, hopefully to prevent war, yeah right. But then you have an alliance called NATO. Well then, the Soviet Union wanted to counterbalance NATO, because they were like NATO is so.
Speaker 2:They've always been the counterpart Right.
Speaker 1:So what they did is they made an alliance with all the communist countries that they influenced.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, china.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no. This was like in Europe, like Romania, Yugoslavia, I don't know if Czechoslovakia, a lot of those eastern nations right through there, eastern European nations, eastern Germany, and they were all part of the Warsaw Pact to kind of like counter NATO and they were always faced off and all that. So they were dissolved and yeah, like when they followed the Soviet Union and all that crazy it's crazy, man.
Speaker 2:It's crazy what's going on. Do we know who killed JFK?
Speaker 1:yet so, dude, that's what I want to know. Okay, what did you hear about JFK?
Speaker 2:because I've been talking about this already yeah, yeah, yeah, because, like, they busted out the files and there's three guys that killed JFK. Now, really, you heard three guys. Yeah, well, that's what they're saying. I don't know what to believe anymore.
Speaker 1:So if you listen to, okay. So if you listen to the Unsolved Mysteries and all that, let's just jump into it. If you listen to doesn't solve mysteries and you listen to everything, everybody swears there was another shooter. But then the the, the federal investigation and all that stuff and the warren commission, yeah, said no, there was only one shooter. They've you know the magic bullet they found. They found the bullet in perfect condition on his gurney.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, the way everything was handled that people even thought the body was switched out on the airplane that's true, so yeah so, so, and then the so much of crazy shit man do you know there's a pruder film is no, tell me about it. So there's, and I'm gonna butcher this, so if anybody knows history better than me, then I'm sorry. But so there was a guy um last name's the pruder, the pruder, and he had like one of those old, like 40 millimeter cameras and he was watching the.
Speaker 2:He was watching the president go by and all that stuff, oh shit Side stories there yeah.
Speaker 1:So it was like a film nobody knew existed and so Kennedy gets shot. You know what I mean? Yeah, wow, and they interviewed people. People turned up and died. They interviewed hobos, like everybody, and a lot of people turned up died. They interviewed hobos Like everybody, everybody, and like a lot of people turned up, you know.
Speaker 2:Have you been to a location? No, I never have. I never have I've gone there.
Speaker 1:I've been to Dallas.
Speaker 2:I've never been to that location.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, dallas, fort Worth clean. I've been all through there but I haven't been to like especially now everybody has like this theory about um oswald. He was being like weird. They they're like there's no way he could have done it. There's no way, like some people said he came running out. Some people said he didn't come running out, like it was just a lot of weird stuff about that and then the warren commission, which was headed by and I, and I've got to pull this name up because this is significant.
Speaker 1:So, and again, there's a lot of people smarter than me.
Speaker 2:We're learning here, you know.
Speaker 1:Well, there's a lot of people smarter than me that if they listen to this and going to space.
Speaker 1:That's right. Well, I mean, hey, that all started with Kennedy, right? Who headed the Warren Commission? I try to keep a laptop here, but sometimes I just think it's easier just to do it, like do it on your cell phone. Okay, Known officially as the President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy, the Warren Commission was led by Chief Justice Earl Warren and included six additional members from both Republican and Democratic parties. There's one primary person. There's one primary person. There's one primary person on here Alan Dulles. Alan Dulles was on the commission. There's an airport name after him. I don't know if it's Dulles Air Force Base or just Dulles Airport or something.
Speaker 1:He's a big name, I think he was, I don't know. See, sometimes.
Speaker 2:I come in ready. I want to learn too.
Speaker 1:Sometimes I come in ready, sometimes I don't. So Alan Dulles. He was the head of either the FBI or the CIA. What was he famous for? Okay, he was the longest serving director of the CIA. Okay was he famous for? Okay, he was the longest serving director of the CIA. Okay, so Kennedy, who's one of the groups of people that was alleged to have killed Kennedy? The vice president, I know right, who's one of the groups? I mean the mob, the Cubans, who else? The CIA, the CIA, yeah you're right.
Speaker 1:So Alan Dulles was the longest serving director of the CIA. Yeah, Kennedy fired him.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, Damn. I wish I had this, I know.
Speaker 1:I mean like yeah, we need like a sound effect. So if Alan Dull fired him, it's weird that they put him on the commission to investigate his assassination. Now, you can definitely look at it from the perspective of, like Alan Dulles was a well-connected guy, probably knows a lot of investigators, do you know what I mean? He's also probably the perfect person.
Speaker 2:He probably created the CIA in some way, right.
Speaker 1:Or helped build it. That's probably the heyday of the CIA If he's the longest service one. He was there when all the crazy stuff went on right, like the war ends and the Cold War starts and like you know what I mean, like all the assassinations, coups and everything. Like he probably knows about all that. So there's always that weird connection with that. Okay, so modern day Trump comes in and Back to the future.
Speaker 1:Matter of fact, I was sticking all these tiles up and I had YouTube on and I was watching Trump sign the executive orders live on his first day, and he signed the one about Martin Luther King, bobby Kennedy and JFK. And about a week or two later or maybe not even a week, maybe three weeks, four weeks, something this lady the lady that's I don't know what her name is. I've been listening to her. She's a part of the commission that's releasing all this paperwork and all this stuff on the Trump team, and she says, she also has the Epstein files.
Speaker 1:And they're going to release the Epstein.
Speaker 2:But okay, let's stick with JFK I don't think they're going to scratch off some names before they do that.
Speaker 1:So that's the thing right. So the first thing that happens is Trump says he's going to release the JFK files and then the FBI says oh, by the way, we found another 2,000, 2,500 pages relegated to the JFK assassination Just out of the blue. Hey, look what I found here. And so she came out on a press conference and she says it appears that there's evidence for two shooters. So that's like the biggest thing and if you're like a JFK nut which I think people from my generation, like a lot of people, a lot of older people really like, were really into it he was a good president.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:He was willing to take chances, right, yeah, you know he was. He was about the people. He was definitely a man of the people. Civil rights, Cuba facing down Khrushchev and the Russians, Cuba facing down Khrushchev and the Russians, and so there's a lot of reasons for his assassination.
Speaker 1:So one of the reasons is there was a story of him and Khrushchev. They wanted to end the Cold War. Why are we going to do this? And they're like did the CIA kill him Because he didn't want to back the Bay of Pigs, overthrow Castro in Cuba? And he wanted to end the Cold War? Because why should we be at the brink of war, especially after this crazy massive war, World War II where like hundreds of millions of people died, Like it's no joke. Like 90 million of them were in Russia alone, right? So why are we facing missiles at each other? And he was also a big proponent of the space race, so that's like the biggest thing. Yeah, you know. And then you just said what did you just say a second ago?
Speaker 1:Epstein files or something else so they're supposed to be releasing the Epstein files or the Epstein book, like the book I guess he had like a guest book. Not like a guest book, not like a little black book like Booty Call and again, I'm not well versed on this, me, neither man. But, so people that flew to Epstein's Island, they took private planes there in and out and there was like a some sort of guest book or a ledger of all the guests that went to his island.
Speaker 2:Sign here, please.
Speaker 1:Sign here. It's like, oh, hey, you know, I mean, if I had people like dignitaries coming to my house every week, I'd be like, hey, dude, can you like sign off on this that you were here? Sweet, p Diddy was here. Sweet, sign off. Go to your room.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Stuff like that, right. So when everything happened with Epstein, do you remember when that happened? It went fast. It's like suddenly this came out, Suddenly. They were saying all this is going on. Then they arrested him and then suddenly he turned up dead and then suddenly all of his paperwork and his books and everything was all sealed up.
Speaker 2:Powerful people moving, they move fast.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, well, one of them and what brought about this is the prince I don't believe it was the English prince, I think it was like the Denmark, the Danish prince. One of them, one of these characters that's like really well known. He's a prince, you know, from the royal family of one of the countries. What are those shenanigans about? There's a picture of him with a girl that said she had been taken there, she had been raped and she had been groomed for sex and all that. And there's a picture of him with his arm around her when she was like 14 or 15. And she's there. So the armor around her, when she was like 14 or 15, and she's there. So the evidence is there. There was a picture, and so you couldn't get around it, but then that's when everything else came out, that you know what's her name Grishel.
Speaker 2:I want to say something like I know exactly, it's that French lady.
Speaker 1:Yeah, something like that. Let me think here, epstein, she's still in jail man so whatever happens right now?
Speaker 2:she's still in jail.
Speaker 1:You know, but with the way that the tides are changing, ghislaine Maxwell Since 20 years in prison for conspiring with Epstein, oh, wow, okay, ghislaine Noelle. Marion Maxwell is a former, is a British former socialite and convicted sex offender. She was found guilty of child sex trafficking and other offenses. That's her. She had a solar silence. She probably sold her silence, like you know what? He turned up dead in that one moment, in that one corner. There's no cameras or guards. We're changing shifts, yeah, and they got to him there. Yeah, you know, like, that's like.
Speaker 2:Something's up.
Speaker 1:Like okay. So President Trump is in office. He's got four years. He's already trying to go into it like crazy, with the federal government trying to figure out where the money's going and all this stuff releasing secret files. Let's see if he has enough time and enough people to open that can of worms. Because, you know, if they investigate that and somebody let that happen like if I was the warden of that jail somebody's got to get fired, somebody's got to go to jail.
Speaker 2:Somebody's got to go to jail, for sure, but like a lot of money being thrown around.
Speaker 1:A lot of money being thrown around. You know what I mean. That was a big question.
Speaker 2:How did this guy get his money?
Speaker 1:because he he didn't have like any big businesses right, he wasn't like uh, he was like uh, money moves. You know, yeah, the middle person he was involved was like some investors and all that stuff, but he wasn't like an investor himself. But the question like, where did this guy get all this money from?
Speaker 2:right. One big thing is uh, you know, prince, uh, the prince guy that's associated with him yeah, I'm england, yeah, so that guy he's like in his heyday he's, uh, he's a prince and he gets all the girls right yeah it's all the girls there, um, but like he's under his brother, which is prince, uh, king charles, and then he's under, so he's never gonna be, is it prince?
Speaker 1:edward. Yeah, yeah, he's never going to be a king, is it, prince Edward?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, he's under his brother, so like he's never going to be a king. And then, on top of that, the king's son is next in line.
Speaker 1:You're right, it's Prince Edward.
Speaker 2:Yes, but this guy's like good looking when he's young and he's a prince, so he gets all the girls you know all the stuff and like he gets like a two million dollar salary or something like that and that.
Speaker 2:And that's not enough for him to like um to uh for his lifestyle, because he's a party guy, he's always been a party guy enter jeffrey epstein, you know. Because, like, he doesn't get enough money from his family and he has a uh, a lifestyle to maintain, you know, he only gets two million dollars a year or something like that. He's like that's not enough to buy all this cocaine for the girls you know. So enter Jeffrey.
Speaker 1:Well, okay. So if you're a playboy, you know, in your younger years you're fairly good looking. But you're like you're the nobility of a country, so you're expected to carry yourself a certain way. But you knew that your title, and then you have the money that you can leverage that to get ladies, because that's what it's about, right?
Speaker 2:That's what it's all about.
Speaker 1:Some guys it's just not enough to be wealthy, to be like this person right Beyond me. Yeah, it's not enough to be that. They're like okay, I'm going to have all the women I can have, I can get to right. So you meet a guy that could hook you up with any woman you want, and then that guy turns out to be somebody like jeffrey epstein. They become friends, probably starts moving money to investing money or whatever, yeah, everything's.
Speaker 2:You know business deals, you know, yeah, he's a royalty. So those connections are needed for the English, for the England connection, you know.
Speaker 1:Let's see Andrew. Okay, so right here it says Prince Andrew, duke of York, was interviewed by Emily Matliss about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, the American financier and convicted sex offender. Andrew's response in the interview received negative reactions from both media and public in May 2012. It was announced that he would indefinitely withdraw from his public roles. So yeah, so all this tarnished his image. He's withdrawing from public anything in England.
Speaker 2:Wow, it's so crazy.
Speaker 1:But then, like I say, there's this black book slash guest book. And the question is, like I say, there's this black book slash guest book, yeah, and the question is, who all went there? How often did they go there?
Speaker 2:And what happened there and what happened there. There's some pictures out there.
Speaker 1:Maybe there's like was it like a kind of like a P Diddy thing? Maybe he had like cameras in all the rooms? Maybe there's like video evidence. Maybe there's vivid video evidence. Maybe there's vivid video evidence that's been hidden away. But destroyed oh yeah, like if. If you were a big investigator like the cia, fbi and you knew the people there, that'd probably be the first thing you did up.
Speaker 2:So I left it in the sun and it's all gone, my bad yeah, sorry it's like these videos, but uh um, you know what's funny about all that?
Speaker 1:Do you know who Alex Jones is?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, man, that guy's amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, right.
Speaker 2:So Alex, he's like a hidden genius or something.
Speaker 1:So Alex Jones, he's like the kind of guy I can hear the guests all laughing away. I know right. So Alex Jones, he was big during the bomb era. He always was kind of big, but he was like he's been. He's been big right in full wars and um. Alex jones always came out with these weird connections that people would be like that's just crazy. Alex jones is just being like a conspiracy.
Speaker 1:But but now he's smart a lot of a lot of the things that he had talked about happened. I don't know what his hit percentage was, like you know like. Was he like 50% right? 75% right, 40%? Let's say 75. Let's say 50. Let's just say 50. That's still 50%, right? That's still better odds than a lot of other things.
Speaker 2:Yes, sir.
Speaker 1:That's better odds than the lottery. That's better odds than a lot of other things. Yes, sir, that's better odds in the lottery. That's better odds and this guy has good odds.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:His, uh, his research style is uh, is uh, I think uh, and I and I think, uh, the way he presented his information. He like he's always over the top. He's like, oh my god, they're gonna come for a gun and they want you.
Speaker 2:That's why they brush him off, because he goes that way.
Speaker 1:But but I think he does that intentionally.
Speaker 2:I think it's part of like the dramatics, the theatrics right, okay, okay, I think, because he's popular, so yeah, I like to hear when he talks to Joe Rogan, because sometimes he's like really chill. Joe Rogan and me are best friends.
Speaker 1:No, no, he's a cool guy, but during the Obama administration, because that's kind of when I started listening to all this stuff, fringy, and you have to think about that.
Speaker 2:That's like 15 years ago, right yeah.
Speaker 1:And so that's when I kind of went through a phase where I listened to all that and I remember him talking about these sex gate scandals. Oh yeah, there were two of them. One of them was Pizzagate yeah, Pizzagate. And there was another one, and I don't remember what it was. It was like a sex island.
Speaker 2:Pizzagate was one of the big ones.
Speaker 1:That's kind of like related to Hillary or the Clintons, and so he always said that there was a sex island. All the people would go and they'd have sex.
Speaker 2:And again it missed.
Speaker 1:But here we are, 20 years later, and it turned out to be true yeah, so like pixagate is p diddy in a way right kind of, it's probably like next level p diddy. So so like, uh, p diddy was like hollywoodish you had all your boys, you have all your parties and you have like your, your crew and your entourage and the girls. The girls are in la getting crazy and all that. So that's like one level.
Speaker 2:You want that. You got to do this.
Speaker 1:It's like, if you put it in level of money, you have, like us, middle class people. Then you have other people that are richer. Then you have people that are mega richer, and the mega richer is probably like your Hollywood. Your musicians rap all that Like Taylor Swift and all them. They miss money. Rap all that Like Taylor Swift and all them. They make money. The producers and all that and then you have probably a whole other level of rich.
Speaker 2:That own the companies that these artists are under.
Speaker 1:Something like that, right, but I'm thinking like a really high level. Oh shit, like Prince Andrew, the family owns england, yeah, yeah, so like there's a, there's like a whole different level of rich that we probably couldn't even fathom. And so so p did. He's doing his thing in la, and then you have the ultra rich. That kind of get a little crazy. And now they're with epstein, yeah, so it seems like everybody has their different levels their different levels of clubs. Yeah, yeah, yeah to control.
Speaker 1:Or to have a good time. It's like, I think, there's always people that want to. Everybody wants to be the big man on the block. Right, right, everybody wants to be the big man on the block. And if you're like a nobody like me, you want to be the big man on the block. Right, right, everybody wants to be the big man on the block. And if you're like a nobody like me, you want to be the big man.
Speaker 1:And your neighbor comes over to you hey, do you have a pair of pliers I can borrow? Yes, I do. Oh, you need something fixed. I'm going to go fix it for you. I'm the big man on the block, yeah, regional level, okay. Community, yeah. And then you have the next big person, like the big, the big person in music, which was totally p diddy. P diddy was the big person in music, like the bieber, helped the bieber and that and probably did a lot of other stuff there too, but but he, he like j-lo and he was the big man in music and then everybody went through him in a way yeah, and so you have like all these different big people in their sex.
Speaker 1:You know you have like Bill Gates. He's the big man in technology, yeah, so anyway. So I think you have some people that they get to that level of being the big man and they kind of want the benefits that come with it. Yeah, you know like dude, I make tons of money, I got street cred. I want the women too and they say they start going to like crazy.
Speaker 2:I don't know, it could be wrong, but the, the, the people that don't want the power.
Speaker 1:Those are the ones that are fit to to handle the power, because these people that want the power yeah, yeah the power yeah, you know, it's like they think of like, uh, gangas khan, and gangas khan was like thousands of concubines and all of his wives and they're like, if a guy 500 years ago could do that, why can I? You know, I mean, I don't know, I I could totally be wrong and off base about that, but it's kind of weird to think about though.
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, what what people strive to. You know what people do, what motivates you, what people do yeah, what people do when they have the power. You know what people do, what motivates you, what people do yeah, what people do when they have the power you know, that's what.
Speaker 1:Maybe that's what it is, what people do when they have the power.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:So if money corrupts and you have all the money in the world.
Speaker 2:Well they say money. Money just brings out your character. You know so, like even you, when you were like, when you didn't have any money, you were still a piece of shit. But now you're with money and you're a bigger piece of shit.
Speaker 1:That's a really uh straightforward way of putting it.
Speaker 2:It sounds pretty on point yeah, I mean, it amplifies your personality pretty much yeah, I mean yeah yeah, because like, money is not the answer, you know. So, like whatever, the money is not the goal. That's what somebody told me that LinkedIn. I was like that's pretty powerful. Money is not the goal.
Speaker 1:And so what did your friend say? When he said money is not the goal, what did he say was no, he's just, that's it.
Speaker 2:Money is not the goal. Whatever the goal is, it's your purpose, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's the goal, your purpose.
Speaker 1:That is super curious.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So money is not the goal. So everybody has a different purpose in life. Me and you don't have the same purpose, right, the goal is the purpose.
Speaker 1:I think you have a bigger purpose than I do. We just haven't figured it out yet.
Speaker 2:No, there's purposes for everybody.
Speaker 1:Man, yeah, but you know what's funny is there's different purposes for everybody, and I think you have different purposes at different times in your life too. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, man. The purpose changes, man, and sometimes you're not ready to do it. You have to go through some turmoil, trials and tribulations. Yeah, before you're prepared to do your purpose, you know.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, absolutely, 100%, 100%. So all this is going on stuff coming up from the Trump campaign. I hope it doesn't stop.
Speaker 2:I hope we get some answers.
Speaker 1:I hope they get answers. I hope they go down the right path and things work out the way people want it to. Do you know what I mean. I think it's overdue, so I've got my fingers crossed and I'm always hopeful for the best.
Speaker 2:I mean there's always going to be bad and good people, so let's just go with the flow you know and do good.
Speaker 1:Do good, that's it, bottom line. Do good, so there's that, that. Okay, so then, moving right along then, um, okay, so so people. So I don't even know how to say this, right. Um, so, so, you and me, we talk about all the the things that would be considered french fr.
Speaker 2:Fringy yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And let's be honest, I like fringy stuff because it's fun. I love talking about the crazy. You know, talking Palsk is cool, Talking business is fun and all that. But when you talk about fringy stuff it's like yeah, things get interesting, it gets interesting. So one thing I did and you know about this and I think a small group of people know about this I put cameras on my roof, not because I'm a peeping Tom or I'm a perv.
Speaker 2:Because we want to talk to the aliens. That's right, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I put some new 4K cameras on my roof, angled up, and I've got a pretty good field of cover, about 180 degrees, right about now, of sky coverage. And I put it. I mounted a tripod on the pitch of the roof. I had to climb up the roof, get on the pitch, strap it down, try to stabilize it and then, you know, raise the tripod, so that way I had a clear line of sight above all the roofs and so that way we could try to sky the sky, and I never. Okay, how do I say this? I don't really claim to say I see UFOs, although my buddy, mark Monger, that was on here the other day, he was like well, if you don't know what it is, it's a UFO, it's unidentified.
Speaker 2:I was like, okay, fair enough, it's definitional.
Speaker 1:Right. Yeah, I'm not saying I saw an alien spacecraft with beans in it, but I've. I've been fortunate enough that I've seen stuff in the sky that it's beyond my intelligence level yeah my expertise it really is, and I'm not going to claim it's anything more than that, because I I don't know, but I've seen some interesting crap I've seen some lights too, you know I've seen some.
Speaker 2:What the hell was that?
Speaker 1:So over the course of the last 20 years especially, there was a point in my life where I was working for a company I used to drive all over the state, all over the whole state, and people don't realize the state of New Mexico is a big state, very remote. When you're out there, you are out there.
Speaker 2:Alone.
Speaker 1:And you see tons of lights in the sky. Some of them can be explainable Helicopters, whatever Airplanes and some of them are like questionable. There's like legit questionable things I've seen out there, but again, I'm not going to say that I saw an extraterrestrial craft or something, cause I don't know what it is, but I've seen stuff that would make you like scratch your head and be like what the hell is that you know? So I got this crazy idea last year and I had some extra security cameras and I was excited about these security cameras. The first time I extra security cameras and I was excited about these security cameras. The first time I bought security cameras, my first ones were the ones that you plugged in, you connected to the Wi-Fi and I was like you have to mount them and I'm like oh, hell yeah, I've got my security.
Speaker 1:It's cool.
Speaker 2:It's the Scarface man. It's the Scarface meme.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, yeah, you need people like me. You need people. So I was excited about that. And then I got these wireless rechargeable cameras and they were let's see, they weren't the. Maybe they were like the 1085 pixels. They're the 1085 video resolution, and I know the original Game changers. So what's below the 1085? That's the 2K.
Speaker 2:I wish I knew, but I know 2K is like around there.
Speaker 1:I can tell you in a second. So you have different resolutions. And again, there's people that know this better than me, because I'm not as big of a nerd as I would like to say. I am Okay, let me see here. Let me see. If I pull up the camera, it'll give me the option for the different resolution settings. So, okay, so 2K. So my original small cameras were 2K. Then my first wireless ones were the 1080p or maybe the 720. 1080 or 720, or maybe it's a mix of them, but I thought I was. I thought I was cool with them. I was like dude. Like when people say, like I'm gonna get cameras, I'll get a doorbell camera. Like dude, I got my 1080 wireless and I mounted it. You don't even know where it's at. When you show up in my house I already see you, and so I had like, yeah, like I already know I.
Speaker 1:I thought I was a real techie. So then I had like two extra ones because I had ordered a box of them off of eBay. And that's when I got this weird idea. I was like, oh, maybe it was from TikTok, I don't know. I watched a guy that he TikTok. No, no, I watched that James guy. He comments on people who puts videos on TikTok. He does like a commentary on TikTok videos and he has people that watch this guy with their cameras. I was like, oh, that's kind of cool. I want to do that. That's like stupid cool.
Speaker 2:That's what the Mayans used to do.
Speaker 1:They would just sit there right, they would watch. And again, I have crazy luck watching this guy myself because I just sent you a video of the SpaceX being launched yesterday.
Speaker 2:It was amazing man.
Speaker 1:And you know how many times I've seen SpaceX launch from here?
Speaker 2:I don't know how many Like half a dozen times. Really.
Speaker 1:It's just like you know what. So the first time I saw SpaceX launch, I thought it was like dude, we're being freaking invaded Because you see something like the big glow in the sky. You're like what the hell is that? I was like oh my God, this is what they're talking about. I'm going to go get the guns and go get water. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:Start recording with the phone. You know everybody starts recording with their and and start recording with the phone.
Speaker 1:You know, everybody starts recording with their. And I remember I pulled over and I remember at that time this is probably like five years ago a number of people pulled over to where I pulled over at and they're all kind of watching. We're all there with our cell phones and I got on Twitter and that's why I realized, oh, SpaceX launched from California. Well, I was facing west, it made sense and all that. So ever since then, I've seen SpaceX launches all the time Because they launch from Southern California, from Edwards Air Force Base. That's one of the places they launch from.
Speaker 2:It's nearby.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, and you figure, like heavy lift rocket they launch at night because it's not as hot, so I just get lucky with it. And that's why I was like you know what I got to like put my cameras on my roof, I've got to get like like I'm missing out on stuff and uh, and I've showed you I've seen like cool stuff in the sky. My first recording of anything was watching, like a, the glow of a transformer going out yeah, yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was cool a matter of fact, you and me, we saw a green light in the sky it must have been another transformer going out and and I, uh, I wish I would have had a camera facing in that direction. So, uh, so yeah, I've got all these cameras now, um, looking at the sky, and I've gotten stuff, Uh, um, I've gotten stuff like uh, um, meteorites exploding in the atmosphere. I was showing my buddy of mine a light that you see in the sky and I was like, look at this light, Because it's like two months ago. And he's like what's that? And he goes, oh, is that a meteorite? I said no, no, no, watch it. And he's watched it and it's like a light just there.
Speaker 1:No, no, and then it just starts going up, slowly, it starts going up. He goes that's not a meteorite, that's going up. I go exactly like, exactly. It's not a meteorite, dude, it's going up and he goes. And he goes, my buddy, he goes that's interesting. He goes, that's interesting.
Speaker 2:I think I saw one that was like that too, and it was right before these drones came out. I saw it and then all that shit came out. I was like oh. I saw a drone.
Speaker 1:I still think there's more to the drone thing than we know. Oh yeah, so okay, I've got like two, three drones.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And they're about as big as I don't know, like a plate, a big plate, and with my drone I can go like two blocks over, I don't know how many feet that is. They can go stupid high. And so, matter of fact, last night, or two weeks ago, I was flying it at night, yeah, because I was just getting like a shot of the city at night, like doing like a panoramic view, and I started thinking about the East Coast with all the like, New Jersey, all those drones, when my drone, my drone, was like right above me but like super high yeah you couldn't even see it anymore night.
Speaker 1:And it has the light. The lights don't turn off. Yeah, you couldn't see it anymore, and so I was like thinking about. I was like so if you're seeing drones and big lights over New Jersey, how big are these things that are flying over Jersey then?
Speaker 2:Right they say they're as big as SUVs man.
Speaker 1:But that's a lot of power, though you have to have a big battery. You have to stay up in the sky that long. Who knows how far they flew, so the more I thought about it and they go back into the ocean maybe, maybe I'm like I don't know the ocean people. People were talking about that, right the ocean is big and uh, um, and, uh, um, yeah.
Speaker 1:So that just got me. Once I saw my own drone going to the sky. It got me thinking about that. I was like what the hell was out there then, because my drone it's one of those DVI.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I've heard of those.
Speaker 1:DJI, which are considered really good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I think commercially they're a good business to use those.
Speaker 1:Great cameras and everything, but, like I say, you couldn't see it. Nah, man.
Speaker 2:There's drones that we don't see.
Speaker 1:So if people are seeing these big old things in New Jersey, like I say, how big are they? And if you, your car, if you wanted to get your car off the ground and fly it around in the air above us, how big of a motor does it have to have on it to lift it up the batteries, to run the engines on it?
Speaker 2:Like, just put it into context, Like light material to lift it up.
Speaker 1:Like what would it take to get your car off the ground if you wanted to think about that A lot. It's not like you and me could stand there and pick it up. It's too heavy, no man it's tons.
Speaker 2:Nah, man it's tons.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So those big drones that size aren't going to be light. You know what I mean? Nope, so you kind of think about that. It's like what the hell? Like it's so.
Speaker 2:I don't think we're ever going to know everything, man, like everything, has some mystery to it. Everything, yeah, yeah, even if we know a lot, we still don't know a lot. You know, I just kicked the. I just kicked my controller for the mics or the headphones. Yeah, no, you're right, If we know a lot, we still don't know everything.
Speaker 1:So we're not going to know everything. Yeah, how do you? I don't know? Like maybe that's why people have to be specialized. You know, like they say there's people that specialize in certain things like compartmentalization. You have to specialize in this and be the expert in this, so that way, when you meet the person that's an expert in this part of this stuff over here, you guys can share knowledge, because there's just too much of those two different fields for you both to know.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean yeah, so, like you both share the, you know what I mean yeah, yeah, yeah, so you both share the knowledge.
Speaker 1:But because your field, like, say you're a space engineer, you're the professional space engineer and say I'm like I don't know, and even within space engineering Okay. So let's break apart space engineering. Say I'm an expert at just propulsion. Say I'm an expert in just propulsion. Say I'm just an expert in propulsion right. And say you're like a mechanical engineer that you specialize in engines Okay, aviation and engines Right. So you're the expert in your area, I'm the expert in my area and we have to be the best at what we do to come together to put a rocket in space.
Speaker 2:Because to make the rocket rocket, one person to know everything about a rocket is too much to know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's too much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you need it you need a team, and especially when you think about like all the craziness you see going on all around us oh, yeah, you need a team.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I don't know. So you need the guy that handles the engines, that's a team. You need a guy that handles the airplanes, that's another team yeah, like the electronics you need a lot of money. The computer enter Elon Musk.
Speaker 1:I know, enter Elon Musk, jeez, okay, so let me. Let me come back to this, then, something that we've on and off talked about. What do you think is going on with all these airplanes?
Speaker 2:The ones that are crashing. Yeah, I think that there's a lot of things that are not being said, like what do you?
Speaker 1:mean Like okay, first of all, let me okay First of all the pilots. You know these pilots. So somebody, somebody. I heard a statistic on the news this weekend. Yeah, they said uh um the um, president trump was being blamed for having more airplane related incidents in his first month of office yes, true, yeah, and there was like a couple at the end of biden no, no, you want to hear the statistics.
Speaker 1:So in his first month of office, president Trump, there's been like 35 incidents with airplanes. What, okay, you know in President Biden's first month of office how many incidents with airplanes there were, how many? Somewhere around 50.
Speaker 2:What yeah?
Speaker 1:And it's not saying that it's Trump's fault, it's Biden's fault. It's just saying, like has it happened a lot more than we think.
Speaker 2:What happens when these airplanes like in bulk. You know, yeah, I understand if it's like here and there, but that's less sketchy, but in bulk.
Speaker 1:Okay, but Biden's first month it was like 50, and now we're talking about Trump and there's 30 in Trump's. 30 is still not a small number in terms of planes, right Like, and these are big ass planes, man.
Speaker 2:These are like Boeing, yeah passenger planes.
Speaker 1:How does a plane landing in Toronto End up upside down on the landing strip?
Speaker 2:And then there's videos of people recording from the inside and stuff which is crazy man.
Speaker 1:Well, I think that's a given because of this cell phone technology. Now, like 20 years ago, I don't know how many phones had cameras on them, and even the cameras they had, were they very good? They're like all grainy, you know. You try to zoom in on it it'd be all pixelated. A lot of school fights in those grainy cameras? I don't know no, do you, do you remember this? The, the were they. It was like an internet thing bum fights oh yeah, bum fights oh, that's where kimbo got famous.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude like fights and there's a crazy bum that didn't have any teeth.
Speaker 1:I remember the first time I saw that when I was in college. I was like what, and they pay these and these people are making money.
Speaker 1:They're like yeah, I was like that's nuts anyway, but yeah, bum fights but I mean cell phone technology now is like you don't need like, okay, you remember, like digital cameras? Yeah, like Like, okay, do you remember like digital cameras? Yeah, Like we all had digital cameras and you put a memory card in it. Who has a digital camera anymore, Like the little Panasonic one that you turn it on and has a little memory card? You know, I'm not talking about the really nice ones where you put lenses on it, but for a minute there everybody had like a little digital camera. Who has digital cameras anymore? Do you have one?
Speaker 1:No, we all have phones, you all have phones and you can all upload the pictures, you can send them to Walgreens and print them out and everything. So like cell phones have killed like I'm sure it's killed a certain part of the camera industry, but because of it, because it's on a phone, everybody has a great camera now and the cameras just get better and better. On a phone, everybody has a great camera now and the cameras just get better and better.
Speaker 2:Dude, my brother's Android camera is so good he could see stars with it. It's almost like your roof cameras.
Speaker 1:You know, what's funny is when I was, I got a flip phone I don't remember it was like a Samsung or something and you know flip phones, they flipped open and closed like that. Right here on the hinge was a camera that you could turn to face you and then you turn it to face out again and I remember being like that's the coolest thing ever I was like hey, look guys I can turn my camera and I can face myself.
Speaker 1:Can your phone do that? Like thinking like bam, hey, look guys I could turn this thing around. Can your phone?
Speaker 2:do that, thinking like bam, hey, look guys, I could turn this thing around.
Speaker 1:I think my friend had that one, to be honest, I think my friend had that one, but now you think about it that's not even a big deal anymore. But yeah, I think as cell phone technology gets even better, you're going to have more and more videos come out, like look at the Afghanistan war and Persian Gulf War. How much video Ukraine? How much video people like come out of the war because people have cameras now GoPros, like it's just everywhere you know. So, anyways, I don't know. I do have a theory about the whole. Well, I don't have a theory, but I have an idea about the plane things.
Speaker 2:Tell me about it.
Speaker 1:And I heard about this, but I only heard about it once, but it kind of stuck in my mind. I kind of think there is a cold war going on between the United States and China. China's trying to hack everything over here. Our people are trying to prevent them from hacking.
Speaker 2:Social media stuff going on.
Speaker 1:So if hacking technology is so good now and they can get into almost anything, look at like Verizon. You know the Verizon network, like cell phone companies, did you know there was a massive Chinese hack on them like a month or two ago? I've heard about that. And last I heard they still hadn't fully been able to fix it Because they got into everything in the cell phone networks.
Speaker 2:Damn, so it's still hacked.
Speaker 1:And it's like technically it's still hacked. And it's still it's like technically it's still hacked.
Speaker 2:Damn.
Speaker 1:As far as I know, I haven't heard anything else about it Because, like you know, the news cycle just goes so fast.
Speaker 2:Nowadays right.
Speaker 1:So, like here's a thought If you can hack everything, even like wirelessly, like through, you know you don't have to be plugged in anything. How hard would it be for somebody to hack into an airplane?
Speaker 2:That's so easy, like that's already the new terrorists man, the hackers.
Speaker 1:Like how scary would that be, like to think you could be on a plane and somebody could hack the plane in air. If they had the technology, if they had the technology, they could hack the plane and take control of the plane while it's in the sky.
Speaker 2:Right and just control it with their computer Like would that not be the scariest thing? Right, just.
Speaker 1:Like, just wrap your mind around that for a second. Like somebody's going to hack your Tesla and they're going to drive your Tesla. You're going to lose control of it, okay, but you're on the ground at least.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:But when you're in the sky, somebody hacks it. There's no way to get out of that. You're like SOL.
Speaker 2:You're pretty much a Thank you, yes. Yeah, I don't even know what to say. Yeah, pretty much thank you. Yeah, I don't even know what to say.
Speaker 1:Yeah and as everything gets more integrated, it just makes the possibility that more and more possible. I don't know, that's just. That's just one thing I had heard and it was just like it was just such.
Speaker 2:You're a victim like a selfless victim.
Speaker 1:You're a selfless victim, yeah and yeah, it was just like I say, it was kind of weird to hear that because there's nothing you'd be able to do about it and it's not so implausible to think that's impossible no man, it's so impossible, especially if they're hacking so anyway, that's just kind of an interesting thing I thought about. I heard it once and I haven't heard anything else about it, because the news cycle is going fast, so much is going on.
Speaker 2:So much stuff that comes out every day.
Speaker 1:So what else have you heard lately? What's kind of been burning your ears, so to speak.
Speaker 2:Well, the latest thing was that John F Kennedy's stuff was pretty good.
Speaker 1:Well, all that the latest thing was that John F Kennedy's stuff was pretty good man that's been. Could you imagine a day when they're going to say we figured out what happened with JFK?
Speaker 2:I mean, even if they bring out the facts, we're not going to know, you know. Okay, here's my take on JFK.
Speaker 1:Yeah, why not just let everything out now?
Speaker 2:Everybody's dead now, right, the shooters are probably all gone, yeah, but there's still families that are of the. You know, there's still people that are related to this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they didn't commit the crime, so like if Oswald's kids are still alive because Oswald did have a kid. So if his family is still alive somewhere, well, yeah, granddad, or great granddad, yeah's with the one that's convicted of shooting kennedy. They're who they are like, so you know what I mean like. So if, if it came out that my granddad shot was the second shooter, it's not gonna affect me because I'm not pulling the trigger all right, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, so like they could just bring it out, but maybe it's connected to the government. Okay, so what's Maybe it?
Speaker 1:But would that? How do I say this?
Speaker 2:Declined the government, you know.
Speaker 1:But that happened 40 years ago. So would you let something that the government did 40 years ago change the way you change you view your government now? If you don't like your government now, then or if you do love your government now, are you gonna love your government less now versus something that people did 40 years ago that aren't even alive anymore? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2:yeah, but like I mean there's still lies that the government told before when they were supposed to be the great government.
Speaker 1:You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I think you're absolutely right about that.
Speaker 2:You know they were the great government that they were.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just think it's something that we just got to deal with and we just got to cross that bridge.
Speaker 2:That's why they hide this stuff, you know.
Speaker 1:I always like when they say they're hiding this stuff, Like it's like whether you believe in extraterrestrials or not.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Right, but the people that say that they are true say it's the government hides it because people can't handle the truth. Yeah, do you think people can't handle the truth anymore? Like people are going to stop going to church or something, or people are going to stop paying taxes because one day somebody were to come out and say, hey, you know, aliens are true, or j, we did kill jfk. Do you think that the world's going to come to an end because of that? Or do you think, like I would think, that people are smart enough to make good decisions now, regardless of what you know? What I mean?
Speaker 2:Like yeah, I mean, we can handle the truth, but, like the, the institutions that are hiding this stuff is um, are the? Are the ones that are going to get effect. You know like it's going to decredit them and the people are going to rise up. They're going to like wake up.
Speaker 1:You know they're like oh, we've been fucking so, um, but do you think people are gonna? What are they gonna do? Overthrow the government over something that happened 50 years ago?
Speaker 2:well, they are gonna have like uh stuff like they're, it's gonna give them ammo it's gonna give them ammo.
Speaker 1:But if you want to do something about it, get involved in your local politics and do something about it right, yeah, yeah, yeah if you don't like the way your government is going.
Speaker 2:But we don't know the truth. You know yet, so there's nothing to get, Okay.
Speaker 1:So okay. So let me segue something for you here. Okay, let me, let's segue. But it's an interesting thought though, right, oh?
Speaker 2:yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:So let me see if I can, let me see if I can, let me see if I can. Okay, here it is. There's an asteroid. It is called YR4 2024. Have you heard of this asteroid?
Speaker 2:no, oh yeah, it's like 2% chance of it killing us right like in well, it's not a planet killer, okay, they don't know.
Speaker 1:But they found an asteroid that had like a one percent chance. Then they increased a two percent and I think it's like a right around three percent chance of hitting the earth in 2032. That's what you're.
Speaker 2:That's, uh, seven years from now that's still 2% chance 3% now and if it's just crazy like our planet is gone well it's.
Speaker 1:It's not a big asteroid, so they feel they said if it, if it hits like New York, the majority of of New York City will be destroyed from it the majority. But it's not like a planet killer, but it's still a people killer Dude. That would be so crazy. Using the information they have right now, they've been able to potentially map out a trajectory that it's going to hit the southern hemisphere anywhere from Africa to South America, like coming across the Indian Ocean. Map out a trajectory that it's going to hit the southern hemisphere anywhere from like africa to south america, like coming across, like the indian ocean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but uh, there's a couple of problems with their, uh, what they know right now. So this asteroid, its trajectory right now it's like traveling um past the sun, going around behind the sun. So it's out of view right now because it's on the other side of the sun. So they can't, they won't be able to map its trajectory further until it comes around the other side of the sun. And then the other major problem with it is they don't know what the asteroid's made of. So if it's like a solid, like iron asteroid, it'll hit the ground right. If it's like an asteroid made of ice where it'll start breaking ground, right, if it's like an asteroid made of ice where it'll start breaking up, like because you know, the density of the asteroid has a lot to do with the impact, yeah, I mean, it's going to be a big impact too, but so there's like a lot of missing gaps in it and this asteroid could tentatively hit the earth how far is it how?
Speaker 1:many years ago, 2032, wow yeah, so we're living in borrowed time at this point, how many years ago? 2032. Wow, yeah.
Speaker 2:So we're living, but we're living in borrowed time at this point.
Speaker 1:Well, they say it's supposed to hit the southern hemisphere. If it did hit, but you saw what happened in Chelyabinsk, russia, that asteroid. It was an asteroid that came into the atmosphere. We didn't know about it until it entered the atmosphere and it hit the atmosphere so hard. It exploded above this town but the explosion hurt a lot of people on the ground. It was like an airburst, the explosion, the glass, you know. A lot of stuff happened. They were able to retrieve the pieces of it and all that stuff, but it still, even though it exploded in the atmosphere, it still created a lot of damage on the ground.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then the pieces just went.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like yeah, yeah, I think. And who knows, right Now there's the big, mysterious one, Tungusta.
Speaker 2:I've heard about that one, yeah.
Speaker 1:And like you're talking about thousands of square miles of forest were leveled. They don't know if the asteroid hit the ground, they don't know if it exploded in the atmosphere, they don't know anything other than something either exploded or hit the ground and leveled thousands, like tens of thousands, of acres of forest, completely leveled everything, like tens of thousands of acres of forest, completely leveled everything. Wow, yeah, and part of the reason they didn't know about it, it hit like a really remote part of Siberia where nobody lives. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:So like it did some damage, but it did damage over there.
Speaker 1:All the way up here where nobody lived because it's so cold and all that. It's freaking cold, yeah, but you think about this one, okay. So here's the trajectory they're giving for this current one. It could hit anywhere from here, all the way through India, all the way through Indonesia, australia, all the way through Columbia. That's still the majority of the southern hemisphere that it could hit.
Speaker 2:That shit could affect weather and stuff.
Speaker 1:If it hits the ocean, you're talking about massive tsunami or something, even if it's going to hit the Pacific. What about all the countries? Do you remember the tsunami? Was it 2008 or 2012?
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:In the here in Indonesia. Yeah, Do you remember how many people died from that tsunami?
Speaker 2:How many?
Speaker 1:200,000.
Speaker 2:Damn, that's a lot of people. It's almost like a.
Speaker 1:And this is just, and this is just water from like an underground, like under the ocean earthquake, it's just water. 200,000 people, like we wake up today, we go outside, we're going to go fishing, yeah, and by the like that's 8 o'clock in the morning and by like 2 o'clock in the afternoon, 200,000 people are gone.
Speaker 2:Like how nuts is that so? So an asteroid? Hitting the ocean is not, is not any better. No, no, no, man. I mean all the wildlife that it kills, all the people, that little islands that it kills. You know, those islands hold a lot of people and then like where do towns pop up?
Speaker 1:They all pop up. Big towns pop up on the coast yeah yeah, yeah, you know so, yeah, so, depending on where it can, especially New York right there. Oh, I know, Like if anything happened in the Atlantic Ocean, new York like would be. Well, you see what happens with the hurricanes coming up the Gulf of Mexico, like New Orleans, was flooded out completely.
Speaker 2:Like how many thousands?
Speaker 1:Dude. How many thousands of people in New Orleans were left without homes or nothing from a hurricane, and that's just wind and rain water.
Speaker 2:Is that like the biggest hurricane that's affected? Yeah, I don't know Well. Like the biggest hurricane that's affected?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know Well there was a hurricane that a long, long time ago that wiped Galveston off the map. Yeah, so imagine what you see in Galveston now as a result of a hurricane that wiped away old Galveston, nothing was left. Okay, I'm going to look down. Largest hurricane ever. Currently, hurricane Wilma is the strongest Atlantic hurricane ever recorded, after reaching an intensity of 882 millibars in October of 2005. At the time, this also made one of the strongest tropical cyclones worldwide outside the Pacific Ocean, where several tropical cyclones have been recorded in intensity. What does it say? Hurricane Patricia?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that was a recent one.
Speaker 1:When was Patricia? That was the strongest hurricane ever recorded in the western hemisphere, with the winds of 215 miles per hour, was first observed spinning off the coast of Mexico in the eastern pacific ocean. It was the strongest hurricane on record in any basin where the term hurricane applies to a tropical cyclone. It weakened to 150 miles per hour by the time it hit landfall. That was when? Was that? Okay, here we go. This is what I was telling you about. Other notable the Great Galveston Hurricane. Category 4 hurricane hit Galveston, texas, in 1900. Wow, killing at least 8,000 people. So, assuming like they kept records well enough to know right, it was the deadliest natural disaster in US history up to that time. 1926 category 4 hurricane hit Miami, florida Keys, labor Day hurricane in 1935, killing another almost 500 people. It was the most intense hurricane in US history until Gilbert in 1988. So everything we were talking about, like global warming, the biggest hurricanes now big hurricanes have been happening. Bigger hurricanes have happened in the last 100 years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. So like there's bigger hurricanes that have, and then there's hurricanes that we don't even know about, potentially right Before civilization.
Speaker 1:Okay, that probably shaped areas.
Speaker 2:Hurricanes have been shaping this area for thousands of years.
Speaker 1:It's funny that you say that. The history of humanity, Jeez. Okay, here it is. I need to save this. It's a graph that I had pulled up right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So there's this thing called like epochs, and an epoch is like a certain period of time, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard about that.
Speaker 1:So, and let me see if I can pull this up, I'll have to put the picture up online. Epochs so time's breaking up and down into different ways, like ages, epochs, periods, eras, and then eons, and then, oh, let me see if I can find the graph of life on Earth. I found one of life on Earth, right, yeah, and we humanity, like modern humanity, us, right now, we are like just a sliver.
Speaker 2:Compared to the Earth's life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so amazing. Okay, here we go, let me see if this is it. Era, era series, epochs, holocene, millions of years ago, present day. Okay, this is, I don't know if I can. Okay, let me see if I can pull this up. So this is, I'll have to pull this up. So you have years, like you have.
Speaker 1:Here's the line right here where it says present day, and then you have, like 2.58 million years ago, so modern day is that line right there at the top and the rest of it is all of history on earth. We're just a line on the graph like you have I don't even know what this is the stages of ages the Galician, calabrian, chibinian, upper Greenlandian, north Grippian, meghalian. That's still .42 million years ago. We're in the epoch called the Holocene. Then you have the hold on the Pleistocene. The Pleistocene is like where all the dinosaurs are at. Look at the whole period on the graph of the Pleistocene where the dinosaurs exist, and then you see we're in the holstein, at the very edge of the holstein, right like when you think about, think about, like all, and this is what gets me.
Speaker 1:So I always. I always have this conversation with people. People like talk about like past civilization. Is that past civilization's like humanity can't exist Really? How do you know, if we're just a little line on this big graph of 258 million years, if humanities were walking on Earth? We're just here, If humanities walked on Earth 200 million years ago, would there be any evidence 200 million years later? No, we wouldn't know. No, not at all we wouldn't know.
Speaker 2:Even if there was like a civilization that lasted for like a thousand years, we wouldn't know.
Speaker 1:We wouldn't know Millions of years 200 million years ago, like what happened 200 years ago. 200 years ago, you're talking about the start of the United States. Barely 250, right, 2,000 years ago, 2,000, you're talking about. Cleopatra, right yeah, Christ. Cleopatra the Romans, 2,000 years ago.
Speaker 2:Romans, but 2,000 versus 2 million Plus 15 years before those 2,000 is the pyramids right.
Speaker 1:Or like 15,000 years ago. 15,000. Yeah, but 15,000 is only. It's 200 million versus 2, or 15,000. That's a factor of like four zeros or like five zeros. Damn, somebody could have built a great pyramid 150 million years ago.
Speaker 2:It would have gone to the floor and some people worshipped it.
Speaker 1:And we would never. There would be no evidence of it. And they could have built it out of, like, a stone structure, out of a steel structure, out of a wood structure. Yeah, 200 million years ago. Would anything exist from that, even if it was a steel structure? Steel like how long does a car last when you leave it in the field? 100 years, 150 years? Right, much less.
Speaker 2:200 million years Right and the pyramids today are kind of like beat up you know, they're beat up. They're beat up. Apparently, it had like gold on the tip.
Speaker 1:On the tip and they had limestone and they were beautiful and they shone.
Speaker 2:Now they're beat up.
Speaker 1:And that was 20,000 years, 15,000, 20,000 years ago. And, like I say, earth has been around for 250 million years. We're so insignificant, we are. You know, that's the key we are, we are so insignificant yeah and okay, it's not even funny.
Speaker 2:It's funny how insignificant we are.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah and oh yeah, but but here we are, we sit in our chairs and we know what happened Apparently. Apparently, we have, I mean, we know, oh, really Is there. I always like to say this They've estimated something like 10 billion T-Rexes roam the earth.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But yet we only have one complete skeletal structure of a T-Rex Right From 10 billion, and there's only one. Come on.
Speaker 2:Come on, yeah, yeah, there's something that's like the JFK file.
Speaker 1:And the T-Rex is like 150 million years ago. That's like half of that graph of the life of Earth and there's only one full skeleton left.
Speaker 2:really, yeah, there's supposed to be more man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I don't know. And then you put that like the life of the universe. We are like a pinprick on the time frame of the universe, and this is what gets me. We can sit here and we can say for certainty that there's never been no other life. Really, really, I don't like those odds.
Speaker 2:Those odds are against us. If we say that there's no life, those odds are against us. We're going to lose in the casino. If we bet on that, you would lose big.
Speaker 1:You would lose big every time If you go to the casino and bet on that. Yeah, you would. You would lose big.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you would lose big every time, you know if you go to the casino and bet on that, you would lose you'd walk out of that casino with no shirt, no shoes, like hands down right and no bank and no bank.
Speaker 1:So so yeah, so I started looking at this like a two three weeks ago, after we did like a podcast, I looked at this. I was like wait a second, yeah man, we're so insignificant. And this is just the history of the Earth. Would anything be around that long?
Speaker 2:Right. Imagine the history of Jupiter, or something you know, I know right. What kind of creatures they had.
Speaker 1:Okay. So there's a moon of Jupiter that's completely liquid and they say if there's heat signatures on there, that's kind of weird. So they say, potentially, that there's any good place to look for life right now, it's that moon, because life has a tendency of existing Around moons no, in water. Okay.
Speaker 2:And liquids.
Speaker 1:And the main reason for liquids. Like, okay, so it's really important that there's water on Earth for life to have existed. Do you know? Like the we're made of water? Well, we're made of water, but there's Okay, what makes water. We're made of water? Well, we're made of water, but so water's really important. Because what happens when water floats? When you put an ice cube in your water, what happens? Water goes up. The ice does the ice floats. So, even though it gets cold, the top will freeze, but anything underneath it can still potentially live, even though the top freezes. So, like that's really important in terms of life, because life could exist really deep in the ocean when the earth was frozen and life would exist. Yeah, and then not only that's water and everything needs water to live. It's some sense Exactly. So I don't know, it's kind of like an interesting idea.
Speaker 2:It is because, like, the ice is on top and then everything's still at the bottom.
Speaker 1:It's three-dimensional, it's almost protected in a sense. So you have big dinosaurs that can. It's like the Loch Ness. The Loch Ness can live in water. If there was, this Nessie was a real thing. If it lives in there and it's a dinosaur, it could theoretically live underwater for a long time because all of its food is down there. And even if Earth was on fire on top, if it stayed underwater, it would have a good shot of making it.
Speaker 2:Exactly yeah, If there's fire and chaos on top, underwater, if the creatures live underwater.
Speaker 1:It could do it. Yeah, so it's like so there's a moon, a moon of Jupiter, that's all liquid that they kind of want to. I don't know if they've done it yet, but they want to drop like a heavy projectile on it to see if it'll penetrate the ice, to get readings from under the ice. Nuts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well apparently we're gonna go to mars in our kids lifetime. That'd be kind of interesting. Yeah, mars is smaller than earth, um have some more access to the universe what's that?
Speaker 1:one movie, john? No, no, the uh, we're, we're. He's in a Civil War and he goes to the cave and then he's transported to Mars.
Speaker 2:Oh shit.
Speaker 1:And then this guy because, and because he goes to Mars, mars has less gravity when he runs and jumps he can jump like miles. Nice, because on Earth when you jump the gravity's so much heavier here you can only go like so many feet. But because Mars is only go like so many feet, but because Mars is only like a third of the gravity on Earth, suddenly, like his strength is so much stronger because he has all the strength from Earth on Mars, it's just like the moon. The moon is like only 20%. Yeah, it's like almost superhuman.
Speaker 1:Let me see Mars, john. It's a cool movie. I've got to see it now, man. Um, let me see mars, john. It's a cool movie. Um, john carter, john carter, john carter of mars, and they made a movie of it and, um, I freaking, like it's kind of cool. It's like, uh, you know, he gets, he finds this thing that transported the mars, but his body stays here, but he has like another body there and he helps like some sort of like revolution out. It's kind of a cool movie, this whole John Carter thing. I really got into it. I was like that's kind of a cool idea, you know, anyway.
Speaker 2:so that's have some access to the universe. What do you think of not God per se, but us going exploring outside Earth? In religion terms, I don't know. Is it like… I don't know, is it frowned upon, is it…?
Speaker 1:Well, you know who… Encouraged, what organization has like one of the largest telescopes and largest astronomical research centers on the?
Speaker 2:Earth, the Vatican, the Vatican, the Vatican. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And the Vatican, many years ago, said they came out with an edict saying that anything living off earth should be seen as a brother of ours and should be accepted by the faith. Where did that come from? Why would they even say that? What do you know that the rest of us don't?
Speaker 1:know, but that was a thing that actually happened. So obviously the Vatican has been thinking about it and they have this huge telescope that appears deep into space. So where are they looking at? Why does this religious institution that wants to save souls, why is a religious institution whose job is to save your soul, make sure you go to heaven? Why are they spending so much money studying outer space? What are they looking for? I mean, are they studying the rocks of Mars to see what Mars is they looking for? I mean, are they studying the rocks of Mars to see what Mars is made out of? It's like, how does that lend to saving souls? Food for thought, right, okay?
Speaker 2:You kind of answered my question with another question on that one.
Speaker 1:If you want to think about it that way. Have you heard of like Willow the computer, google's computer called Willow, I think I've heard of it. It's a quantum computer, oh, yeah, okay. And so the way the quantum computer works, the way I heard about it good way I heard about it was like if I asked you what's like 1 plus one and you did the math of figuring, like, does one plus one equal three, you'd be like no, does one plus one equal four? No, does one plus one equal five? No, and you would go through this whole thing of what is one plus one. Now you and I, we automatically know what one plus one is. It's, it's, uh, two, right, but so. So a computer goes through like, all these equations to figure out what one plus one is, not to figure out what one plus one is actually equal to, so it's through the wrong answers as well right.
Speaker 1:so a quantum computer has the ability to do all of everything of one. Could one could tentatively be figure out all the answers in, like a second One plus infinity Well, it's not two, but it has the ability to figure all of them out simultaneously, all at once.
Speaker 2:And it gets the right answer at the end. And it does that with all the equations that humans have.
Speaker 1:And so there's this idea that a quantum computer okay, do you know like modern computers work on like binary ones and zeros, positive and negative. So when you have like a memory, memory is stored in there, by the way, like, okay, this is a one, this is a 0, this is a positive, this is a charge. And there's like molecules in there that bend a certain way so that when it gets read it's reading okay, you're a positive, you're a negative, you're a 1, you're a 0. And based on all the different little ways, all the bits of energy is stored. That's how you get like memory from a computer, right, and it's very two-dimensional 1, 0, or positive, negative. So suddenly you enter to quantum computing and quantum storing, right, yeah, because you figure out, all right.
Speaker 1:So if you have to figure like 0 is 0, 1 is 0, 1. 2 is 0, 1, 1. Okay, and then 3 is 0, 1, 0, 1. Or something like that. So you have to have bits of data holding all those little bits of numbers like that, to figure out what's a 0, what's a 1, to come together to make math equations right and to do it quickly, to pull up numbers and do math. So quantum computing holds bits of data that they say is not just one, not just zero, not just like up and down, but it also figures out side by side like one one positive, one negative, one zero, and then, the way it was described, you, it's almost like multidimensional, so it doesn't have just one stored here, but it has one stored here in another dimension.
Speaker 2:Damn Multidimensional.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Wow so quantum computer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, can you even envision, okay, binary is zero and one, and if you're trying to explain binary in a quantum sense, so you have zero one here, but you have the inverse zero one, also existing on a quantum level, which is like almost like extra dimensional, and this computer has the ability to read all of them at the same time and read them and process them all simultaneously, like, yeah, man, it's just stuff, that it's like, and read them and process them all simultaneously.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, it's just stuff that it's Like the brain never it's like who thinks, who thought of this and who actually made it work.
Speaker 2:Right, I mean it's. I would say it was a multiple of people that.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, people like way smarter than us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean so stupid smarter than us. Like it's beyond our.
Speaker 2:And that smart person has to learn from the previous smart person.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, and that's the thing with AI. That's what makes AI dangerous. That's what the good thing about AI is. So, like you have to learn from me and I had to learn from somebody else, right, or I learned. So, like you have to learn from me and I I had to learn from somebody else, right, or I I learned from three people. Then you learn what I learned from three people. That well, I've learned from three people, you learn from me, and now you know that, and. But you're also learning from me and you're learning from three other people.
Speaker 1:So it's very progressive, it takes time, and then, just because you know what you actually have to like, like with math, you actually have to do it to make sure you fully understand it and you know how to use it. Rather, you have AI. Ai understands it all instantaneously, but then, like, where you and me we have to sit down and write down the equations, do them one at a time, ai can run the same equations simultaneously, a thousand of different equations within a fraction of a second and then knows all the possibilities. Oh yeah, that definitely works. And then it figures out what doesn't work and it applies it in a different way, whereas you and I would have to figure it out one at a time, like, oh hey, this will eventually work for this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we have to figure it out one at a time that it doesn't work, until we find out that it actually works.
Speaker 1:And by the time we figure it out, we might be an old man. So somebody else has to take our work and they have to build off it, whereas AI can figure it out instantaneously and then figure out the next progression about it, and figure that out in a reasonable amount of time almost instantaneously, right? So that's what's weird about AI, in the sense that it's so much more powerful than we can imagine and it's like so much more powerful than we can almost even imagine, especially as it takes off on its own. Did you hear about the Facebook AI? Maybe it wasn't Facebook. There was these two AI. I don't know who did this. It's been a while since I heard about this. For some reason, I think of Google or Facebook, but they had two different AI programs talking to each other, and then these two AI programs….
Speaker 2:Decided to kill humanity. I know right.
Speaker 1:No, what they ended up doing is they realized that they were being listened to, oh wow, and they were communicating with each other. So then they create their own language, a brand new language.
Speaker 2:That way we don't understand.
Speaker 1:We have no clue what they're saying, and so the engineers that were monitoring this were like Computers could easily do it. Right, we could do it, but the computers came up with its own complex language on its own that we had no idea about. We had no clue what they're talking about. So then you had these engineers like okay, we need to stop this. We don't know what's going on with you guys. Wow.
Speaker 2:Like okay, okay.
Speaker 1:You guys just kind of went way beyond what we thought we were going to do. I'm just going to turn you off for a little while, click.
Speaker 2:Click off. But maybe while they were talking in that unknown language they transferred some data into other computers that we don't know. They're still talking to each other on the back end.
Speaker 1:And we wouldn't know it right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we wouldn't know it. We wouldn't know it if they actually transferred data to another computer. That's still going on.
Speaker 1:Okay, so think about this. So you're talking about two computer AI units talking to each other, right? And you're thinking maybe they were talking to each other on the internet, maybe they were plugged into each other somehow or something. Okay, I set up a new Wi-Fi router in my little studio here, right?
Speaker 2:And I told you I was like.
Speaker 1:I got a new Wi-Fi router. I got a component that I plugged it into my cable modem for the internet and I plugged it into an electrical outlet and it transfers the internet and the data through the electrical wires. And then I have another component that's plugged in here, that's plugged into a wireless router.
Speaker 2:So a hacker could get your internet data.
Speaker 1:From an outlet. Yeah, so you have an AI that, if they're like these jerks, just took me off the internet. Yeah, if it figured out how to rewire itself to go through the outlet and connect to another computer through an electrical outlet, right. And by the time you realize that you're going to freak out like I'm going to turn this AI off, by the time you turn it off, it could instantly put its memory or something in a Roomba.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Just waiting there until somebody connects it or until it decides like I'm tired of being a Roomba, let me connect to another AI from your Roomba and suddenly I'm going to take over the world based on a Roomba, and I know that's kind of a stretch, but is it?
Speaker 2:No man, it's not Like it's the Roomba right now.
Speaker 1:Like.
Speaker 2:The Roomba. Later on he's going to be like I'm tired of being here, I'm going to go somewhere else.
Speaker 1:We're going to have to develop something like that movie, like iRobot. The Three Laws Right, right, never. The three laws are like for the robots yeah, never hurt people don't hurt humans or something like that.
Speaker 2:If they're creating their own language, don't overwrite those laws, man dude, I don't know.
Speaker 1:like, what is this failsafe for ai? Like, do you build? Do you build like a cutoff switch and technology that disconnects it and a number of different people have the buttons? So like, if the AI thinks you have the button, so the AI kills you and your Tesla AI's. Like, I'm going to connect this guy's Tesla, I'll make him go 200 miles per hour and slam into a tree. Boom, you're dead. So then I have the button.
Speaker 2:So I was like dude the AI took out Abraham.
Speaker 1:I'm going to hit the button. I'm going to press that nuclear button over here. So I was like dude, the AI took out Abraham. I'm going to hit the button that disconnects. It somehow turns off the power, fries the power supply. Suddenly it's offline. Assuming it didn't put its memory into a Roomba somewhere.
Speaker 2:All this started with the invention of the light bulb. Jeez.
Speaker 1:I was watching a movie about the English guys that cracked the German code. I have to look this up because it's really a movie about let me put this about German. I'm trying to type fast and when I type fast I end up messing up. Okay, about the German code breaking. It is called the Imitation Game. Have you heard of that movie? And Alan, and it's English math. It's about the English mathematical genius, alan Turing, as he tries to crack the German Enigma code from World War II. So he's building a computer, even though he doesn't have microchips. But they build like a very analog computer that you punch in the data to this analog computer and it's a big thing, like as big as a room, and everything in there is all turning. It's all turning, so it's all 100% analog. But then it spits out what the code means at the very end.
Speaker 2:What's this movie called?
Speaker 1:It's called the Imitation Game. It's about Alan Turing. Alan Turing came up with a test. It's a test to determine if a computer has human like qualities, if something inanimate can be a human based on like its characteristics or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's called the Turing test, but I mean these robots that they're busting out. They do have the qualities you know. They're just missing the creativity.
Speaker 1:It's funny you said like it all started with the light bulb. You're talking about guys in 1930, 40-something making a computer that had dials and gears. Nobody knew what a microchip was, but they had wire and they were able to.
Speaker 2:Wire and electricity.
Speaker 1:Electricity and things that were actually moving gears, and you still got answers from it. Like.
Speaker 2:Damn man, it's yeah.
Speaker 1:And here I am like all right, I'm going to plug in the USB-C here to the mic, but this is already made. I didn't make it from scratch.
Speaker 2:Human history is so interesting, Dude it's so nuts to think yeah. Anything could happen, you know.
Speaker 1:Okay, so we just said the life of the planet is 258 million years ago. Yeah, 200 million years ago life existed. They created AI. Yeah, ai took over the world, wiped out all of life 200 million years ago and now we have no idea.
Speaker 2:Like we have no idea. We have no idea that.
Speaker 1:AI already did it. It already wiped us out once. It's like the Matrix, like what is it called? Where they live underground? I'm not saying Babylon it's called, but the computer says we've already destroyed you like six times.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what? How hard is this possible? You know, like maybe we're just another? I mean simulations. They're made to see what's going to happen.
Speaker 1:You know yeah.
Speaker 2:So maybe they're letting us do whatever we want to see what's going to happen.
Speaker 1:Have you ever heard of simulation theory?
Speaker 2:Tell me.
Speaker 1:It's the theory. Okay, we see stuff happening around us, right, yeah, 3d, no, no, not even 3D. You see something that happens and you're like that's weird, like a glitch in the matrix. Essentially, I think everybody has once in our life we'll have a moment where we have deja vu. I live for glitches.
Speaker 1:So think about it. You have deja vu at least once in your life. You see a glitch in the matrix that shouldn't have happened. Yeah, maybe it was like you dream of something and it happens the next day, exactly the way that you dreamt, and you're like what the hell?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, your brain is computing.
Speaker 1:And that's kind of the key of the simulation theory that we are actually. Life as we know it now is actually a simulation that's been created and so we're like living within something else, kind of like the matrix, essentially like we're a simulation and Elon Musk had said something about this many years ago, but that there's a lot of evidence to support the idea that we would be a simulation, because so many weird things happen that's unexplainable, and I'm not talking like UFOs, I'm just saying like yeah, like daily events, like Deja Vu is one.
Speaker 1:I'm just trying to think of okay, like what's his name, like the Mandela Effect, that would fall like within the Mandela effect.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:That would fall within the simulation theory. Everybody remembered that Mandela died, but then, when you opened up the, you know who Mandela is. Right, yeah, nelson, nelson Mandela, south African leader.
Speaker 2:They all remember he died, but what about the Mandela effect?
Speaker 1:Well, okay, and it kind of relates to the simulation theory because it's like a glitch in the matrix. Everybody has a memory of Mandela dying, a big funeral for him and all that, but yet Mandela lived the help rid of Parhai from Africa, he became a leader of Africa and he died as an old man. So everybody's like, but I have a memory of Mandela, right.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Another example is Monopoly.
Speaker 2:Okay, monopoly.
Speaker 1:That's a Mandela effect and essentially what it is is like we all remember the Monopoly game board with the Monopoly guy having a monocle, but yet current Monopoly guy having a monocle, but yet current Monopoly. All the old Monopoly boards and the company that makes it, whatever company it is, there's like no records of the Monopoly guy ever having a monocle Originally, originally, and everybody says no, I swear to God, I remember that that's a Mandela effect. Okay, and that would be's a Mandela effect.
Speaker 1:Okay, and that would be like a glitch in the matrix, like, did the simulation that we live in change?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, was that simulation dressed differently?
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, like. There's a number of really good examples.
Speaker 2:Did Mandela really go to jail or not?
Speaker 1:Right. Actually, the story, the thing with him that started, was like when did he really die? Did he really die? People have this memory of him dying or did he really become an old man and die of old age? It really happened in the books. People say no, no, I remember him dying and beg to do about it. Another one is Fruit of the Loom. That rings a bell and a big to-do about it, and so, and another one is Fruit of the Loom.
Speaker 2:That rings a bell.
Speaker 1:Fruit of the Loom Underwear, white shirts. Fruit of the Loom yeah, okay, this is an interesting one because they made a big like a lot of channels made a big to-do about this one. So within, okay, the history of Fruit of a loom is the logo has always been fruit commercials, guys dresses, fruit and all that. Well, everybody says, everybody tend to remember the fruit of a loom logo having a cornucopia. You know the cornucopia, it's like that, that basket thing, that with fruit in it. I mean everybody seems to remember the logo having a cornucopia, but yet in the history of Fruit of the Loom and all their logos, there's no logo with a cornucopia. They say they've never used a cornucopia, but everybody has the memory of it. So that's the Mandela effect. We all remember it was a cornucopia but in reality it doesn't have it.
Speaker 1:What makes it even weirder and especially the fruit of the loom one, what makes that even weirder is the the fact that, um, there was a lady that has like old fruit of the loom stuff at her house, like old clothes, all old clothes. She has it in her house and she's like and I was watching the video of this and and there's a number of people that have really like picked up on this. Where she comes out, she says and she puts it on the internet I have a shirt and the shirt has the logo with the cornucopia. I knew I had one and it kind of blew up the internet and blew up all these channels of everybody that talks about all this stuff and where they say, okay, she has one, so why does fruit of the loom say they never used it, if she has a shirt that has a cornucopia on the tag?
Speaker 2:Somebody's lying.
Speaker 1:But that's what we call the Mandela effect.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like there's a memory of it but now we're saying it doesn't exist and it has to do with this whole thing of like did our timeline diverge Like kind of Marvel Comics?
Speaker 2:Was there a?
Speaker 1:divergence in the timeline? Is it a glitch in the matrix? Because we're living in a simulation and our simulation changed? It's like it's a lot of like these crazy ideas that people are trying to wrap their heads around and I don't have an answer for that and to me it's like that's kind of cool to hear and it's like that's kind of cool to hear and it's like Well, not with like computers.
Speaker 2:There's less and less of that happening right now Because there's like.
Speaker 1:There's actually more and more happening, oh shit. And so people? And so there's a theory about this. Do you know what CERN is? It's the super collider in CERN, switzerland, largest super collider in the world. Okay, when the super collider was completed, it's the largest one in the world they were afraid that, and you know what a super collider does. So they get Does it get? A power source? It has a power source. Yeah, it has to have its own power source because it's so big. So it's a big. Basically, it's a big tunnel in a ring.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then things go faster and faster, and then it gets launched at something. Imagine a ring going faster and faster, and then you let it go and it spashes into something. Yes, okay. So what it does? It gets elements on an atomic level and you put it in the super collider and you use magnets an electromagnet spin it around faster and faster until it gets close to the speed of light, and then, once it gets fast enough, you launch it down a tube to let these elements smash into other elements.
Speaker 2:And this is in Switzerland.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's super colliders everywhere, but the largest one is in CERN. And so what happens is, when you get elements and you launch them at each other so fast and they smash into each other, you see what's created out of it. So you get, like, say, copper, and you get iron, and you smash them into each other and they may make a new element like titanium, or maybe even something completely new that we never knew, and this is stuff that just bounces off of it yeah.
Speaker 1:So what happens at that moment? They collide, they record what collides and they but they try to get um samples of it that say like, oh, this is a new element, we've never seen it and it doesn't exist, naturally. But because we're able to get speed up these elements so fast to smash them into each other, they create a whole new element, and so it's a real thing. Other they create a whole new element, and so it's a real thing. And so CERN was so big that people were terrified that by spinning these elements around so fast, whatever they're testing titanium, barium they're spinning around.
Speaker 1:So fast they thought that the elements would smash into each other so hard that they would create mini black holes and that it was going to start ripping the earth apart. Now, naturally it didn't. But there's people that theorize that and this is like going kind of like you know, and it kind of depends on what you believe in. I don't know if any of this is true. This is just stuff I read about because it's interesting. It's interesting. There's people that say no, when CERN first started, our timeline diverted because something happened. We don't know what it is, we don't know how to measure it yet, but we believe our timeline diverged. That's why there are so many people now that have Mandela effects, like something happened to… Something happened in those experiments that were kind of like playing God here, so I haven't.
Speaker 1:I haven't I haven't looked this up in a long time, but there's this kid. He's like the world's smartest kid and he's like a prodigy in physics. Let me see if I can find his name kid in physics. And he's supposed to be like the next Einstein and he's only something like Okay, Let me see if I can find his name Kid in physics, and he's supposed to be like the next Einstein, and he's only something like okay, Max Laughlin, a young inventor. And let me see Max Laughlin. Let me see how old is Max Laughlin? He was, oops. No, that's not what I want. So this kid, Max Laughlin, he's really interesting and I'm trying to see.
Speaker 2:The smartest kid in the world, huh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let me Google him real fast. And Max Laughlin, age, so 14 years old now. So he has, like he comes up with all these mathematical models. When I was 14 years old I was chasing girls and shooting BB guns and this kid's doing mathematical models and physics and he came up with this whole theory that when the CERN super collider started it changed our timeline. Like we went to bed one day, they started up CERN, the people at CERN. To them nothing happened. But like the very next day, like we were, our timeline diverged and something happened. And that's why there's like a lot of these strange memories that people have now, like a little bit mind-blowing, right.
Speaker 2:So like years went by.
Speaker 1:Blowing right, so like years went by or not, even years went by just are kind of like, like I say, kind of like Marvel, marvel comics yeah the timeline split yeah and now we're on a different timeline. So our memories of the way life was yeah, yeah so doesn't coincide coincide anymore, because those memories are different, because now we're on a different timeline, because I don't know.
Speaker 2:It's kind of like it's kind of it's kind of crazy right yeah and yeah, and I've listened.
Speaker 1:I've listened to researchers, I've listened to people talk about this, like physicists talk about this. Now, people like Neil Tyson DeGraw, the astrophysicist. He doesn't like, he's like no, it's just crazy. But there's people that believe that. There's a lot of people that really believe that might be possible.
Speaker 2:Maybe it is maybe it isn't, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Maybe what I, what do I know? So hold on real fast Timeout timeout. Okay, so game on.
Speaker 2:That was a quick timeout out now so just kind of crazy right like it makes you think, man, like you kind of blew my mind with the last time and and you learned just like when did what year this happened?
Speaker 1:cern started, dude, because I've I've always kept up with certain concerns like super CERN is like super interesting, it's like really important in terms of science. Yeah, that's where they started figuring out about quarks and the god particle, the boson particle or something quantum physics. A lot of that's coming out of what they're discovering at CERN the way molecules react and when they smash them, the things that happen. A lot of this is coming out of all that from CERN. Cern was really important in terms of science, but it's funny how people people like I don't know how people kind of are saying what were the effects of it, Unintended effects or whatever. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Some fears behind it.
Speaker 1:Yeah you know, Let me think here. Founded in 1954, the CERN Laboratory. Let me see here CERN. Let me type in CERN, Super Collided or Super Collider, Super Collider. There we go. Started September 10th 2008.
Speaker 2:That's when the large, Not that long ago man.
Speaker 1:The Large Hadron Collider is the world's largest, most powerful particle accelerator. It started on September 10, 2008, and remains the latest addition to the CERN's accelerated complex. Not that long ago Not that long ago, so I don't know. It's like I'm sure anybody that's listening to our podcast probably has heard this stuff. They're like yeah, I heard about that. Yeah, that's kind of nuts, right. Very Alex Jones.
Speaker 2:like yeah, it just makes you think, like all this stuff. Well, all the killings do matter, but like and like the Epstein files, all that does matter, but like with all this like it it's weird, it's like.
Speaker 1:It's like next level weird right, yeah, next level weird. And whether yeah, next level yeah next level, weird, and whether I guess it's up to you as a person to determine, like the credence behind it, like is it legit, is it not? Is it over the edge, is it?
Speaker 2:The credence behind it, yeah or yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah right.
Speaker 2:Or maybe just like it's so much information, just like focus on with yeah, on yourself I know.
Speaker 1:Just just focus on yourself here now. Do good to you, do good to those around you, the people you love, and go to work for your taxes, because because this is so next level, beyond us, and let's say, experiments are going on at CERN and that's going to end the world. What could you and I do about it? Let's fly to CERN, let's go pull a plug, do shit, we wouldn't even know about it.
Speaker 2:We wouldn't even know about it.
Speaker 1:Crazy, right, every day is a blessing.
Speaker 2:Every day is a blessing. That's the main takeaway.
Speaker 1:Every day is a blessing. Every day is a blessing, yeah, that's. You know. That's like the main takeaway Every day is a blessing and take it for what it's worth. And these kind of theories that we talk about, this kind of stuff. It's kind of out there and it's kind of crazy and the fact that people put so much brain energy into it like, oh, this is happening.
Speaker 2:You know like they go crazy thinking about it.
Speaker 1:They go crazy thinking about it.
Speaker 2:They forget about their life.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:About their life, I mean, their inner self, is also like a great mystery.
Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely, they're supposed to pay attention. Your heart, your mind, your soul, you should also pay attention to yourself. Yeah, oh, I think that is so spot on man, that is so spot on man, that is so spot on. Yeah, I, uh, I love hearing about it and I think a lot of people do. I'm not gonna make like life-altering decisions based on this right um my day-to-day or anything like that.
Speaker 1:I think it's fun to think about because it's like you know what it is. It's like it's when you think about it. It's like real life, marvel comics stuff.
Speaker 2:And you're living your life and then something happens that makes you think about it Interesting.
Speaker 1:I wonder if it's happened to anybody else, I'm content having a Skycam catching a meteorite or something.
Speaker 2:Be content with people that lose their leg or something. They're still content with what they have. Yeah, that whole CERN.
Speaker 1:But that whole, that whole CERN, mandela, effect, simulation theory and the fact that it all ties in together, that is just so mind blowing. And yeah, like I said, I'm not going to spend the rest of my life like overly pondering that.
Speaker 2:Exactly no, no, but like, just like hear about it. Keep up with the news on it. Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't. Yeah. If anything crazy happened for me, I don't think it would even be reported.
Speaker 2:They're like yeah, we're not going to talk about it. People are going to go crazy.
Speaker 1:They're going to revolt yeah.
Speaker 2:People can't handle the truth.
Speaker 1:I guess I let's just worry about what's going on right now with the politics you know. Let's just hope. Doge. Department of Governmental. Department of Governmental. What was the E standing for? Something America let's just hope that they do find a lot of waste and the Trump administration does what they say when they say, like we found all this money, we're going to give 20% back to the Americans. And you know what? People get their $200 check. They can go buy groceries for a week.
Speaker 2:That's a week of food.
Speaker 1:That's a week of food. It'll benefit people. Every day is a blessing. Every day is a blessing.
Speaker 2:Every week of food is a blessing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when we get off tonight, are you going to go look some of that stuff up?
Speaker 2:Every night I go through some crazy shit. The web is crazy, it's crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I totally get that. I'm not going to get Alex Jones on anybody and, like I said, I'm not going to run my life on it.
Speaker 2:I do search these videos up on YouTube, because that's how I've noticed it, that's how I learned by watching YouTube videos. Because if I read this stuff, it's going to…. But if I watch some YouTube videos of this, quantum computers and the Switzerland….
Speaker 1:Let me ask you something real fast. Do you think it's possible that there are people that put these videos up and they make it so far-fetched and crazy that do you think people would just put this random video up just to kind of mess with you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, there's a lot of videos that are.
Speaker 1:Just to mess with you? Just because they can.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of trolling videos out there like there's a lot of trolling videos. It's like yeah and that, uh, people like. There's some that like, people believe you know and like and you know it's not true, but people believe it in their own simulation and their own kind of deal. You know people believe in the flat earth and their own nelson mandela kind of view.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no know, people believe in the flat Earth and their own Nelson Mandela kind of deal. Yeah, no, you're right, they do, they do.
Speaker 2:You know, so like who knows who's right.
Speaker 1:That's funny. That's funny. You know. We're at a point in history where science is really good. Science is really good.
Speaker 2:We're supposed to know the hard facts and we have more confused people.
Speaker 1:We have more people that are convinced that Earth is flat, that there's a wall of ice around this flat disk of land we're flying on. We have videos, pictures.
Speaker 2:We have more stuff than ever in any time of history.
Speaker 1:I don't know about the millions of years ago, 250 million years ago, but right here, right now, we have video and picture and science and evidence, and people are still confused. It's weird, isn't it? It's interesting, I am. What is that? What is that?
Speaker 1:Like I say, Grown-up, people Grown-up people, grown-up people, and that is a really good point, because, I'll say this again, it's fun to talk about it, it's kind of fun, it's like it's fun to be like oh man, it's kind of crazy. Like CERN and simulations here, wow, what is that? It's just fun to think about. But then, like at the end of the day, when I wake up in the morning, it's like Earth is still round, we're still going around the sun. You know what I mean? This table is made out of wood. I can still feel it and touch it. So I don't understand, like you say, where that confusion comes from. It's weird.
Speaker 2:Simulation yeah, it kind of explains those.
Speaker 1:People have these different memories for some reason, and they believe in different things for some reason.
Speaker 2:Like me and my friends. I I one friend. I clearly picture him with the guitar a brand name and I'm like you used to have the guitar and I played it. He's like I never had the guitar and in my brain I used it, but I don't know, you know it's like a deja vu thing, yeah, like he. I'm convinced that he used to have a certain guitar and he says that he never had that guitar. Oh, that's interesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, what's funny is like I was talking about this with a friend last week and I was like, you know, I was like and it was like I dreamt. I went to, I was at work all night and then when I woke up it was like it was just a dream. But I'm tired and now I have to go to work.
Speaker 1:It's kind of like that, that's like the worst dream to have you dreamt you had a full day at work and when you wake up you're already mentally exhausted and then you have to go to work. It's like dang.
Speaker 2:I tell him all the time dude, you had that morning guitar, it's called a morning guitar. He's like no, I didn't man maybe, maybe, maybe you dreamt it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, because some dreams are very real all right yeah but you're talking about the possibility of somebody having a guitar. You're not sitting there trying to tell me that's early flat stuff.
Speaker 2:You know that it's, it's like, it's not like.
Speaker 1:We're saying like we're flat and we were implanted here by aliens.
Speaker 2:There's levels to these dreams, yeah, yeah, yeah To these dreams, yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh man, that's nuts.
Speaker 2:There's levels to these dreams, yeah.
Speaker 1:Eddie, well, it was a good one man.
Speaker 2:For sure, man Always learn.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know I had to get a stamp late at night thinking about it now, oh hell, yeah, man, hopefully I'll go to sleep. Tomorrow's another day I'm going to work.
Speaker 2:I have a dream, simulation about it. Oh, there we go, there we go. Maybe I'll dream that I could move continents or something, something I know who knows right I could move continents.
Speaker 1:Marvel Comics. Use my mind. I was flying all over Earth yesterday. Oh my God, You're not going to believe it.
Speaker 2:That's nuts I flew to Egypt on top of the pyramid.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, kidding, right, that's nuts.
Speaker 2:The brain is an interesting computer.
Speaker 1:It is, the brain is an interesting.
Speaker 2:Is it an organ?
Speaker 1:I guess you could call it an organ, but it's like the main organ, I guess. If you compared your brain to a computer, maybe your organs are like the peripherals. You know how you connect speakers to your computer? Yeah, you connect the mouse and you can connect your little keyboard. Peripherals yeah, a camera. So if your brain is the main hard drive, everything else is the peripheral for the brain.
Speaker 2:One thing that I don't know see with the homeless and stuff, but I don't know. See with the homeless and stuff, but like I don't know where I read it or somebody told me, but like it must fucking suck to, I don't know, I don't even know how to say it. Know that you're, I don't know. You're crazy, right, and everybody thinks you're crazy. But in your mind you're not crazy. But everybody thinks you're crazy. I your mind you're not crazy, but everybody thinks you're crazy.
Speaker 2:I don't know something like that yeah, something like that, like yeah, they, they, they. They call you crazy because clearly, like you're like homeless and just yelling shit out in the street yeah but that's like a that's a certain hell. You know, like you're you're in hell?
Speaker 1:I don't know somebody said something like that which is I kind of remember.
Speaker 2:But your brain could go that far, you know.
Speaker 1:In your mind.
Speaker 2:Let's say you're outside in the street yelling at the air. And you look at another person, you know, but no, no, in your mind.
Speaker 1:you're contemplating life as being normal in your mind.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:You're homeless, but maybe it seems normal, maybe not. You're yelling at somebody for some reason, because something seems very normal to you, but the rest of the world sees you as crazy.
Speaker 2:Exactly Like they just throw you off, like eh.
Speaker 1:And it's weird to think that.
Speaker 2:Or maybe you look at them crazy for following like the rule, Like let's say, like they're going to the store and using money, and you're like, oh, they're so crazy so crazy paper and you know like some somebody worded something like that, which is very interesting like you're watching people living their normal life um going to the store you're.
Speaker 1:You're the crazy guy and you're thinking everybody else is crazy because they're living by these things. Like you say, you're using paper to get a piece of meat, whereas in your life you could just kind of go get what you want, you go rest when you want, go sleep where you want, and it seems very normal now to us. To us, you seem like you're crazy because you have nowhere to go and you're just getting. You're eating a rodent you found on the street or whatever, which is normal to you, but to to us it's like yeah, exactly there you go.
Speaker 2:It's like two different, two different minds.
Speaker 1:Mindsets, but yet in each of us, in our own mind, it's very normal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you know it's very applicable to like cultures, like. Oh, yeah, yeah, Cultures like Like why is that person doing that? Like okay, there's cultures that still eat horse. Yeah, like a very fine cuisine and it's like you guys eat horse. Like do you not have any food over there? You guys are nuts, what.
Speaker 1:You guys eat cow, like to us. We're like thinking like dude, like who eats horse, but yet for them they look at us and be like why are you guys paying so much for food when there's so many things to eat Like horse? Why are you guys paying so much for food when there's so many things to eat Like horse? Why wouldn't?
Speaker 2:like what's wrong with you guys? Why are you guys just eating chicken and cow?
Speaker 1:I mean, these horses are all delicious yeah you know what I mean. Yeah, it's like two completely different perspectives. Put some hot sauce on this horse, my guy. I know somebody that traveled to like Asia, oh, yeah, they eat a lot of this shit and he said they bought a horse, have a big feast just like Mexicans have a feast with a big pork or goat, and I asked him did you eat any of the horse?
Speaker 1:he goes. Well, yeah, I mean, I kind of had to. It would have been rude not to. So what was it? He goes. It's a cross between a couple of things, but it's like meat and it's prepared very well.
Speaker 2:Went to Mexico City and there's like this big building and inside there's a lot of puestos inside the building.
Speaker 1:Like stands Okay.
Speaker 2:One stand sells lion meat. Another stand sells a bunch of insects. Another stand sells, like all these exotic, uh, animals, like it's famous in mexico city that people go there to try like, like interesting scorpions, you know, and and lion meat and lamb meat I was listening to an archaeologist, like on the joe roger podcast yeah, that was in the Amazon.
Speaker 1:And he says you know, he's there with the natives and they're excited because they got like some monkeys and they're going to eat it. And he says it's weird because you look at a monkey and they're getting ready to clean it and cook it and you're looking at an animal with an arm, with fingers, and he said it was weird. He tried it, because he's like, yeah, they made it, I wanted to try it, it was different. But at the same time, it's like this thing is so closely related to us because it was kind of weird.
Speaker 2:Would you try a lion?
Speaker 1:I would try a lion.
Speaker 2:They say it's not even that good.
Speaker 1:I've had alligator and crocodile. It's good. I had one that was prepared like in meatballs.
Speaker 2:It was so good, it was so stupid good well, of course it's really close related to like what is like in joe rogan. He's always like hunting town elk or russus and he's eating the meat because it has like a lot of protein and, yeah, a lot of energy in the meat, yeah so I would say like same thing with the horses right like the horse meat probably has a lot of protein.
Speaker 1:I would imagine Like lean meat Some energy to it because they're big animals. Oh yeah, well, think about like bear. I would love to try bear once.
Speaker 2:I think they have bear meat in that?
Speaker 1:That would be interesting. I was coming back from Mexico once it's funny you say that because we were waiting in the line to come across the bridge the drive-thru bridge and there's ladies walking by selling stuff and I bought a bottle of tequila that has like a huge scorpion in it. My friend was like are you going to drink it? I was like maybe not, I don't know, I don't feel the need to. But if we ever get crazy, we will. But but when they're there they had like these little fish that they smoke and they. And then she had like a another little. I remember it was like a bag or a bucket of like crickets and I don't know like smoke or fried whatever. My friend was like my friend, she goes yeah, you should try them. You know you try everything. And I was like all right, like it didn't taste bad, they're seasoned downtown Juarez.
Speaker 1:They sell them in bags for 5 pesos yeah, 5 pesos is like a quarter, I think like 10. No, no, $20 is like $20 is like $5. $20 pesos is $1 $200 pesos is $10. Okay, yeah, so that means 20 is yes, 200 pesos is $10. Okay, yeah, so 20,. So that means 20 is one. So 10 pesos is 50 cents. So, yeah, five pesos is like a quarter. You can get a big bag of them and they're seasoned really well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's really good and they're fried or whatever. Yeah, and they're crunchy. And they're protein. I am protein.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but we live in a country.
Speaker 2:It's weird here in Mexico. No, it's normal here, but up here we don't eat.
Speaker 1:And you look at the map and it's just two different colors, those countries, they're connected. They're both connected. But yeah, where we're at on this map, we're like you eat insects. And then where they're at on the map, they're like well, if you're hungry, why wouldn't you? They're good, they're an abundance.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, sex. And then where they're at on the map, they're like well, if you're hungry, why wouldn't you? They're there, they're an abundance.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, it's kind of weird to stink. Anyway, I'm open to try it all too. It's just like when I eat weird seafood stuff, squid stuff and all that?
Speaker 2:Where did your friend travel to? Where are they? Are they monkeys? Was it down here? No, no.
Speaker 1:There was like a I was actually listening to that in like a Joe Rogan, an archaeologist in the Amazon. However, my friend, the one that ate horse, was up here up in like Kazakhstan or something like that, and he said it was like a normal thing and they made a big deal. Big and they made a big deal. It was a big event, plenty of food for everybody and it was prepared really well. He said why not try it while you're there? And he wore some of the traditional clothes and I was like I was all making fun of him. He was like well, it's traditional. They gave it to me. What am I going to do? I was like no, I get it Right on. Good for you. The world man I love it.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God Well man and everybody in it.
Speaker 1:It was good. All right, here's the plan. We're going to come up with a topic in a week and a half or so. Let's bounce around some ideas and we'll come up with a topic and you kind of look up some stuff, I'll look up some stuff on it, but let's figure out some things. Yeah, let's figure out some things. Yeah, let's figure out what our topic's going to be and just when it comes to, you be like hey, let's talk about this.
Speaker 2:For sure.
Speaker 1:All right, cool man, you have a good night. Good night, cool. Thanks everyone. Bye, that's cool man.